Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Perhaps you should head over to Climate Audit to put McIntyre and the others (many actual programmers and climate scientists) in their places, damn
silly foolhearted feebleminded denier conspiracy kook nutters they all must be.
They generally are. Hard truth, I know.
And then some:
"I've just completed Mike's Nature [the science journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie,
from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's [size=4]to hide the decline."[/size]
Yeah, for the proxy data the modern observations are added for recent trends. It's a 'trick', as in a clever way of doing something. These semantic
arguments are tedious. Perhaps pick out a dictionary - that's the trick!
The decline is as I've outlined already. In some of Briffa's proxy data the more recent observations diverge from the real observations. They show
declining temperatures, whereas actual thermometers show inclining temperatures. It's a well-known problem with that proxy data - the 'divergence
problem'. Discussed widely in the literature and noted in articles using that data.
The funny thing is that McIntyre et al already know this (search his blog). So why are they trying to spin it as fraud?
Don't ask those hard questions, though.
“This whole project is SUCH A MESS. No wonder I needed therapy!!”
— HARRY_READ_ME.txt
What do you say, mel?
I say that I often know how Harry feels. Debugging code is a pain in the ass. Although, I'm much less than an amateur, lol, I can still throw
together something for the purposes I need it.
As for the questions on what appear to be defined variables in that code above, no idea. Not my code. They also don't need to release the code,
that's the researcher's work no matter what McIntyre believes - if they are forced to release, then they probably would. You see, the idea is to
replicate findings, not duplicate
Although, all NASA-GISS code is freely available. Not heard a squeek from McIntyre about it. Must be fine then.
ABE: PCR is a statistical method if that helps any.
ABE2: You appear to have more issues with semantics here:
it would be nice to try to “contain” the putative “MWP”, even if we don’t yet have a hemispheric mean reconstruction available that far
back
Does your post contain anything more than quote-mining and semantic failings, does this teapot tempest go beyond that?
The MWP is a defined (sort of) time period - medieval warming period. The data would need to go that far back to contain it.
When you've finished rooting through someone else's knicker drawer, perhaps the best thing to do would be:
1. Outline which particular studies are problematic
2. Indicate why and where there is a specific problem in those particular studies
3. Show how this effects our current understanding of climate science
As at the moment, it's like responding to a creationist's Gish-gallop.
Cheers.
[edit on 23-11-2009 by melatonin]