Chandrayaan discovers presence of magnetic spheres on the far side of the moon, page 1

Magnetic Spheres I'm stumpt here
Magnetic Sphere this means a solid object doesn't it?, I'm trying not to think of a Solid object like a round solid ball. floating

Source:
BANGALORE: After water, it’s magnet . Chandrayaan-1 has discovered and confirmed for the first time the presence of magnetic spheres on the far side of the moon—the side we cannot see from the earth. This could theoretically mean a longer and secure stay for astronauts on moon.

There had been speculation for long but the confirmation was made by Sara, the instrument jointly made by Isro, European Space Agency and Sweden. The findings by Sara, not yet published, were made known by top scientists on the sidelines of the platinum jubilee celebrations of the Indian Academy of Sciences at IISC. The discovery of magnetic forces comes after the discovery of water molecules by M3—the Nasa instrument on Chandrayaan-1.

The confirmation of micro-magnetic spheres has thrown open an exciting theoretical possibility—a safer stay for astronauts. It is believed that micro magnetic sphere resists or deflects radiation from solar winds hitting the moon’s surface . In case bigger magnetic spheres could be built, astronauts could live within those spheres and survive the radiation.

What makes the magnetic spheres on the moon significant is that there is no atmosphere on the moon which enables solar winds to hit the moon’s surface directly . The impact of radiation is direct. If at all an astronaut has to survive on a planet without atmosphere it would then have to be with the aid of magnetic spheres. Sara has also discovered lot of different ions like direct solar wind ions, reflected solar wind ions and nightside ions.

Ok there micro-magnetic spheres but I have no idea what these Spheres are
I'm sure a member can enlighten me/us.

I'm about to post a picture of what I think are Spheres on the surface of the Moon.
That's how I found this info.


Zelong.

[edit on 23/11/09 by Zelong]

wow.... cool........

hmmmm....... anything to do with the magnetic anomaly of lake vostok...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

S&F





[edit on 23/11/09 by mcrom901]

reply to post by Zelong

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i wonder what they look like? would they even be visible or would this just be a magnetic field in the shape of a bubble?

In case bigger magnetic spheres could be built, astronauts could live within those spheres and survive the radiation

This statement tells me that they are tangible spheres, I instantly thought of the ones you see on the living moon website, looking like glass spheres.

en.wikipedia.org...

They are objects, apparently small ones, not large enough for an astronaut to live in, maybe they are thinking they can join them together for that purpose. The article also mentions the lack of hydrogen, so now I wonder are they thinking it is possible that inside these spheres the atmosphere is different? Lots of interesting possiblities!

edit to add: Star and flag!

[edit on 23-11-2009 by space cadet]

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After reading the article again micro-magnetic spheres jumped out at me.
These micro-magnetic spheres were detected bySARA (ESA/ISRO) at an atom level while neutral atom imaging.

Scientific Objective:
SARA will image the Moon surface using low energy neutral atoms as diagnostics in the energy range 10eV-2keV to address the following scientific objectives: * Imaging of the Moon�s surface composition including the permanently shadowed areas and volatile rich areas * Imaging of the solar wind surface interaction * Imaging the lunar surface magnetic anomalies Studies of space weathering Studies of space weathering The Moon does not possess a magnetosphere and atmosphere. Therefore, the solar wind ions directly impinge on the Moon surface that results of the surface layers. The sputtered particles leave the surface mostly as neutral atoms. A majority of these atoms has energy exceeding the escape energy of Moon and thus such atoms propagate along undisturbed trajectories. The SARA instrument is designed to detect such atoms with sufficient angular and mass resolution to address the above scientific objectives. SARA will be the first-ever energetic neutral atom imaging mass spectrometer used for planetary exploration.

Zelong.

The confirmation of micro-magnetic spheres has thrown open an exciting theoretical possibility—a safer stay for astronauts. It is believed that micro magnetic sphere resists or deflects radiation from solar winds hitting the moon’s surface . In case bigger magnetic spheres could be built, astronauts could live within those spheres and survive the radiation.

reply to post by zeddissad

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Given the article states clearly that these sphere may be 'built' and allow an astronaut to 'live within those spheres' I am led to believe that they are a tangible object rather than an unseen force.

[edit on 23-11-2009 by space cadet]

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I didn't say that they can't be built. If you place right shaped magnet somewhere or power up such and such constructed electromagnet then you got a magnetosphere.
Earth magnetosphere is generated by rotation of outside part of globe against core - it's basically dynamo. Some metals may become very strong permanent magnets. What I pretend is that under moon surface are spots of such magnetized rock and "micro-spheres" are thus relatively small magnetic fields around those spots. It is consistent with theories of moon development.
That is my understanding of the article which is more plausible to common sense then mysterious unnatural spheres. I do not see any metal balls anywhere. May be I'm just blind.

As for "atom" thing:

SARA will be the first-ever energetic neutral atom imaging mass spectrometer used for planetary exploration.

I'm not specialist in the field but I understand this: SARA use some type of passive spectrometer - so this device do not use own energy to excite atoms but is based on solar wind/cosmic radiation energy input. SARA basically measure changes in solar/stellar energy reflected by Moon surface. Every molecule, every atom will somehow affect this reflection. That is my understanding. It doesn't mean that SARA is able to do "images with resolution of atoms" (my understanding of yours post) - that is field of electron microscopy.

Again I'm not any expert I just use common sense and public sources. You can easily find principles of spectrometry and realize why this setup is inovation.

EDIT to add:
As I think about it then SARA is type of automatic prospector looking for valuable sources.

[edit on 23-11-2009 by zeddissad]

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Thanks for your reply zeddissad ,I still don't see what it is I stated that was wrong.

SARA will image the Moon surface using low energy neutral atoms as diagnostics in the energy range 10eV-2keV to address the following scientific objectives:

1. Imaging of the Moon�s surface composition including the permanently shadowed areas and volatile rich areas
   
2. Imaging of the solar wind surface interaction
   
3. Imaging the lunar surface magnetic anomalies Studies of space weathering
   

I found this earlier while researching "magnetic spheres".

30-Ton Metal Sphere Spins for Magnetic Fields (With Video!)

Building a test planet takes serious engineering. Researchers at the University of Maryland have constructed a 30-ton sphere that spins at more than 90 mph to generate magnetic fields. The 10-ft.-dia. sphere is filled with 13.5 tons of liquid sodium to mimic the Earth’s liquid-iron center core. A 3.3-ft.- dia. stainless-steel sphere inside the larger one counterrotates to approximate the motion of the planet’s solid iron inner core. The action of Earth’s inner liquid produces a magnetic field that makes compasses work, deflects harmful cosmic rays and protects the planet from solar wind. The field reverses every couple of hundred thousand years. By using a model instead of a computer simulation, scientists hope to determine how these reversals occur and predict the next one.

Zelong.

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So if the radiation hitting the moon makes it lethal for astronauts, how come Armstrong and Aldrin are still walking around?
. Did they not get a very big dose of it?

[edit on 23-11-2009 by m khan]

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I think the article refers to astronauts spending a long time there; as in setting up some kind of a base.

The Apollo missions probably didn't have the astronauts there for any length of time that would have exposed them to a dangerous amount of radiation.

reply to post by Zelong

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This is why I love ATS, this is what analysis and presumptions should be, beyond reasonable doubt and beyond possible assumption.

Deny ignorance, S+F

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