What is the purpose of this frenzy of UFO in recent times

This Q&A is from the latest November, 2009 issue of Share International magazine. Many are familiar with this magazine and have already based an opinion of it. However, whether you are familiar or not with Benjamin Creme's view of UFO's, reading the following with an open mind is definitely recommended.

It's generally accepted these days that the "real" UFO activity is on an increase. We've all seen the videos and heard the stories of UFO's appearing and disappearing, and moving across the sky with blinding speed in what could only be considered a 'denial of the laws of physics'. The centrifugal force involved in moving a physical object across the sky like this would be more than a physical body or even a piece of machinery could withstand. And there's also the consideration of space travel in a physical body or machine across vast areas of space. It doesn't make sense in our conventional way of thinking about space travel. So could it be possible that these UFO's are not entirely made of the same physical elements that we are? Could they have the ability to lower or raise their vibrations at will so as to appear and disappear from our view when ever they want to?

I wasn't sure whether to post this Q&A here or in "Psychology, Philosophy and Metaphysics", "Religion, Faith, And Theology", "Science & Technology", or simply "The Gray Area". It seems to cross all these topic quite easily. If you don't agree with the following concepts, then that's fine with me. I personally have no problem with that since it is, after all, a pretty bizarre way of thinking. Also, the reference to "the Christ" has no religious connotation here what so ever. It's a term that refers to the "World Teacher", the One Whose Awareness has evolved to such a point that He now represents "All of Humanity as a Whole", and not just one particular individual within that whole. Kind of like "you" representing all the cells in your body, whereas each individual cell in your body possesses some lower form of awareness within your whole.

There's a lot of talk lately about UFO disclosure by our governments. Whether this happens or not, according to Creme, the biggest disclosure humanity has every had is about to happen and will in effect wake us up out of a dream. We are about to discover the very secrets of the human soul, but that probably warrants a different thread. So here's the Question and Answer:

Q. What is the purpose of this frenzy of UFO activities particularly in the UK but worldwide in recent times?

A. The real purpose is the “gathering of the Forces of Light”. The Esoteric Hierarchy, the Christ and His group of Masters, make up, with all of Their disciples, the Forces of Light of our planet.

They are added to by spacecraft from our neighbouring planets, which you rightly said are coming in greater and greater numbers. We are part of a solar system, an integrated unit. My Master wrote an article in March 2007 in which He talked about the coming together of the Forces of Light: both from this planet and from our sister planets in the system. That is why we are seeing so much UFO activity. They are real and come from Mars and Venus, mostly, but also from Jupiter and Saturn and other planets.

Most people believe what they are told, that there is no life on Venus or the other planets, but the spaceships, the UFOs, have been seen by thousands of people for years, mainly from Mars and Venus, which are the nearest planets to us. The governments of the world for over 60 years have denied the existence of UFOs, which indeed in growing numbers are active in our skies. The governments have hoodwinked the public for their own reasons, probably mixed. They have sought to deny the existence of UFOs, flying saucers, whereas people who have seen them know that they are always present in our skies. The curious thing is that while denying the existence of UFOs they have sought to denigrate occupants of these ‘non-existent’ craft as malicious, threatening the wellbeing of humanity.

What is the motive for this curious non-exposure of a tremendous event? The governments would say they want to avoid panic but beneath that is the unacknowledged fear of loss of control and power, which a welcoming approach to the Space Brothers would ensure. They know that if humanity knew that the spacecraft in our skies were not ‘aliens’ but were here to aid and alleviate the suffering of humanity on this planet, and with their obviously far more advanced technology, people would demand that they are openly welcomed and their superior teaching made available to them.

Earth scientists deny the existence of any form of life on Mars and Venus and the other planets of the system. This is the result of their inadequate understanding of the true range of matter. These scientists acknowledge three planes – solid, liquid and gaseous physical – above which, they have not the technology to measure. Therefore they believe ‘more’ does not exist, yet the Masters and all students of esotericism know that there are four further states of matter above gas, the etheric planes of matter. It is on the etheric planes that can be found ‘life’ on our sister planets, from Mars, on the lowest etheric level, up to extraordinarily advanced planets like Vulcan, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn...

Spacecraft from these planets create the crop circles of which the largest number are seen in Wiltshire, the southwest of England, because Maitreya is in London. These crop circles are the ‘calling cards’ of the people who man the UFOs, to acknowledge that they are here, without alarming people or infringing our free will. The craft are so designed they can make in seconds the most complex design, covering several hundred yards in diameter – they have such an advanced technology...

They are also engaged in a tremendous work of replicating on the surface of our planet the grid of our magnetic field. This is preparing the way for the ‘science of light’ which is the technology of the future. This will give us total, unlimited, safe power for all our needs. It is obvious, therefore, that far from being ‘alien’, malicious monsters to be feared, as they have often been presented to the public, the Space Brothers are on a spiritual mission to help in every way possible within the Laws of Karma to maintain the stability and future health of Planet Earth.

Cheers.

[edit on 22-11-2009 by Neo__]

reply to post by Neo__


You actually give credence to this crud Benjamin Creme? You know, I may not be crazy about some ATS members but I would never hoist crap like this on the whole membership. This guy is not worth quoting; he's a nut! Right from his opening remark you know he's not worth anyone's time, especially ours.

You're dissing us!

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We'll I'm sure that you don't really speak for all of ATS, especially considering that you've only been registered on ATS for just over a month now.

As far as your opinion of Benjamin Creme goes, well that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. But I've usually found that name calling is a knee jerk reaction for a closed mind and is the lowest form of any discussion.

I don't agree with alot of opinions and beliefs either,but the fact that there are so many who DO believe certain people and ideas IS relevant.

It's all a part of seeing the "Bigger Picture".

It's obvious from my posts that I am a Christian,but does that mean I think other people's beliefs are "invalid"? Far from it! All people are important and their beliefs are a good barometer of what is taking place in the world at large.

Weighing other people's beliefs against my own only enforces what I already believe,by contrast.

We need to always look at both sides of everything to see the whole "coin".

Actually,this whole UFO and Alien phenemon plays right into what I believe,which is this:

..."The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan,displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles,signs and wonders,and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing." 2 Thes.2:9-10

Matthew 24:24 says:"For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-if that were possible. See,I have told you ahead of time."

After learning more about what Bill Cooper wrote about "MAJESTYTWELVE" and "Project Bluebeam",in addition to the lie of the Rapture,I believe we are witnessing the greatest deception/conspiracy of all time!

Star Neo

I've never heard of Benjamin and I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with his explinations, but I enjoyed the read.

I find it amusing how so many people can believe in UFO's/Aliens, but then they want to argue against what a fellow believer says.

"They're not Reptiles from Nibiru! They're Greys from Pilaidea!"
"NO they're not! They're Light Beings of Higher Self from Andromeda!!!"

Ideas, Theories, Thoughts, Dreams, Questions, Answers, Books, Visitors, Abductions, Secret Bases, Underground Bases, MIB's, Government coverup ..... The list goes on and on and on .. And everything has to do with the same basic principle ..

We are not alone in the universe.

We can all agree on this at the very basic level of understanding it, but everyone wants to argue with everyone else about details that, to be honest, no one on Earth has any knowledge of.

The sad fact is .. Ufology has become as competitive and hatefilled as religion itself. I'm Right - You're Wrong! My alien is real, yours is fake! My aliens wants to save the world while yours wants to enslave humanity and eat us.

Segregation and Seperation amongst the only other people in society that will stand with you.

Throw in to that mix the non-believers with their attacks against us and you create an even larger atmosphere from animosity.

We can't solve an exponentially vast mystery like the universe as individuals. Only through a massive conglomeration of unbiased appreciation for likeminded seekers working together as a society will we ever reach the truth. Whatever it may be.

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Some more information for what it is: www.thewatcherfiles.com...

Two Separate Rebellions in the Early Days



Most people are familiar with the rebellion of Satan wanting to be like God and wanting to be worshipped as God. For his sins of rebellion and pride, he lost his rulership over the planets he resided over and lost his place in heaven as a high ranking archangel.

What most people do not realize is that the rebellion of Satan's, leading 1/3 of the angels to try to usurp God's authority, and the rebellion of the Watchers are two separate events.

The Watcher's were not a part of Satan's rebellion; they created their own rebellion against God by deciding to leave their first estate which was heaven, and go to the earth to cohabitate with human women. Why doesn't the church ever address this issue? In fact, why did they try to cover it up by leaving Enoch out of the canon version of the Bible, and then manipulate the meaning "sons of God." They mistranslated Sons of God, (angels of God) creating some ridiculous theory suggesting it to mean Sons of Seth. People bought that explanation because they did not realize there was such a huge difference in changing that text around and it would keep them from the truth and allow the churches to cover it up.

Enoch was one of the greatest Prophets of God to have ever walked the Earth. In his lifetime he wrote 365 books. We have one of them. Where are the others? Are they lost or being kept hidden? It is in Enoch where we first learn about the rebellion of the Watchers, the angels assigned to watch over and guard over the earth

In Enoch

Chapter 6:1 it says..

1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.

2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men

3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them:

Enoch then continues to discuss a deal he makes with fellow Watchers to all commit the same sin.

In verse 7, it says that there were 200 chiefs on the summit of Mount Hermon, which is located on the border of Lebanon and Syria and stands over 9,000 feet high. They agreed to come to earth and cohabitate with women.

These 200 chiefs were each in charge of tens of thousands of other Watchers. So how many fell with them.We do not know, maybe they all did. That would put the number into the hundreds of thousands that fell from heaven and came to earth.



Chapter 7

1 And all the others together with them (this indicates their armies did follow them) took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms

2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they

3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed

4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against

5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and

6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood (cannibalism). Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.



Chapter 8

1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all

2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they

3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven .



Chapter 9



1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being

2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryings up to the gates of heaven.

3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause

4 before the Most High. And they said to the Lord of the ages: Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the

5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all

6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which

7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the

9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have

10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are

11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.



Chapter 10



1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech

2 and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come

3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape

The following verses and chapters talk about their judgment and confinement, then in chapter 15 Yahweh speaks to Enoch directly, who the Watchers had approached to intercede for them on their behalf ..

Chapter 15

1 And He answered and said to me, and I heard His voice: Fear not, Enoch, thou righteous

2 man and scribe of righteousness: approach hither and hear my voice. And go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: "You should intercede" for men, and not men for you: Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children

4 of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die

5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget

6 children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly

7 spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

My view, it is to increase reception with the acceptance of eventual contact.
Oh boy, its going to be like waking up into a dream for many, yet its going to feel like being woken up from a very long nightmare for most.

It cannot be expressed what people are going to feel, but it will be pure. For those that have no profound experience will fail to ever wake up.

There's something to be gained from experiencing contact and having these people showing and telling you everything about your true past and giving you, with your permission, the chance to experience it again. To see the real going ons of how all things function will not change you, it will create a total new way of thinking.

Their technology is going to blow everyone away. Its not like what has been shown in most tv shows and movies. The nature of how it all works is completely based on nature and science and how the both relate to eachother. This technology is biological and exists with biological energetic responses of the trained individual who knows certain truths that our society currently lacks.

What this means is that this technology can biologically speaking, change a persons functions for different reasons. It can tap into your energy field and give you what you immediatly wish or need at that time, occording to how you feel and what you need. It knows what you want and it is alive just as much as you or me.

Most of this technology is based interdimensionally and beyond time.
It can show you your history and past. With this technology things will never be the same.

reply to post by Neo__

We've all seen the videos and heard the stories of UFO's appearing and disappearing, and moving across the sky with blinding speed in what could only be considered a 'denial of the laws of physics'

I wouldn't take for granted that many on here have seen anything like you describe on video. The mythical manner in which people claim UFO's move for some...ah...er..odd reason never really translates too well on video. You would think we would have dozens and dozens of examples containing such activity (which you seem to assume that such videos do exist and are even remotely credible.)

But your view kind of falls apart from the very beginning with that assertion for me. Ignoring reality is either through a willingness and desire to do so, or through ignorance....although the end result is the same which is a shame.

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Well in the 40s there were the UFO headlines and the sightings and the lies.
In the 50s there were the UFO movies.
Up to now I suppose there were the Adamski and Billy Meier stories
and the Nazi UFO material.
Then in the early 90s the Tesla stories started up.
To prevent everyone from wising up to the lies an even more
comprehensive UFO dis info frenzy is upon us.
Its not the ETs cause what is anything we know to them, nothing.
The threat of exposing the knowledge is cause for the UFO holders
and energy suppressor to make lies that are easily debunked.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
reply to post by Neo__

 

We've all seen the videos and heard the stories of UFO's appearing and disappearing, and moving across the sky with blinding speed in what could only be considered a 'denial of the laws of physics'

[edit on 22-11-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]

Consider unknown physics right here and now:
"They don't know, so how can we"
www.abovetopsecret.com...
or directly as:
Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave
www.youtube.com...

Even the experts said instantaneous and are wrong.
Elimination and denial of the stable ether discoveries
of Tesla since 1943 is the reason for UFO suppression.

Hear about how the electron is NOT electricity.
Perhaps the laws are wrong.
And people can get away with ideas just because they can
Well we do no have to follow the crowd if the UFO makes sense
with electrical characteristic only one person discovered.

The UFO makes pressure waves that lift and propel.
Instead of a boat at sea propelled by a water jet the
UFO in a sea of ether is propelled by the pressure wave coil.
It floats and can sting worse than a bee.

reply to post by Neo__


this should be in the [HOAX] forum...

Q: why should this thread be in the [HOAX] forum?

A: because it is a [HOAX]. share international said a year ago that their maitreya would then be revealed...now, a year later, still nothing. If it looks like a [HOAX], walks like a [HOAX], talks like a [HOAX], chances are, its a [HOAX]

Originally posted by reject
reply to post by Neo__

 

this should be in the [HOAX] forum...

Q: why should this thread be in the [HOAX] forum?

A: because it is a [HOAX]. share international said a year ago that their maitreya would then be revealed...now, a year later, still nothing. If it looks like a [HOAX], walks like a [HOAX], talks like a [HOAX], chances are, its a [HOAX]

He does not seem to want to know why the laws of physics are
are broken.
Cause the laws are broke.
They were never full complete with the properties of the ether.
Only one person wrote the book and only the elite have the
Tesla discoverers and they prefer not to discuss Tesla and
provides grants only to law abiding studies.

ED: Find the theory of the stable ether.
Why did Tesla said his craft was stable in wind and storm.
Did Tesla ever test his aircraft.
Would Tesla ever make a non electrical sourced craft.
I don't think do.
Force through the ether from electricity, the ether is in
every part of the craft and people inside.
Einstein knew but could not say according to that series of
videos I posted above.


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Texas UFO's: 28 reports in 20 days
www.examiner.com...


LOVE

Originally posted by awake1234
Texas UFO's: 28 reports in 20 days
www.examiner.com...


LOVE

I think there might be a few companies in Texas that are involved
in the UFO construction.
They don't stray far from home.
Their goose might be cooked now.

reply to post by infolurker


It's really funny how Bible Thumpers define and classify ET beings they know nothing about, according to their book, written by man. Just label everything Satanic, Demonic, and Luciferic and that makes it all true. Says who? The ET beings I have had occasion to speak to laugh at such ideas, as do I.

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by infolurker

 

It's really funny how Bible Thumpers define and classify ET beings they know nothing about, according to their book, written by man. Just label everything Satanic, Demonic, and Luciferic and that makes it all true. Says who? The ET beings I have had occasion to speak to laugh at such ideas, as do I.

Scientology is not a religion only a hood wink that people hear
some one talk about aliens they think the talker is an actual
believer.
They pity the fool and forget why they got involved.

The exact same Nazi alien religion is being promoted covertly today by the U. S. government and the Illuminati, through fancy, well-financed TV productions, books, movies, UFOlogy and New Age groups, which spread the lie that flying saucers are “extraterrestrial”, to serve the dual purpose of concealing flying saucer technology and hypnotizing the American masses. We have an InterNazi government.

see in my profile or

Speaking of all the UFO frenzy,etc....I was thinking about the Chemtrails possibly linked to the Project Bluebeam. Large increase in Chemtrails reports,Alien disclosure on the horizon,World Government right around the corner(whether we like it or not).....

Just trying to connect the dots!

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
reply to post by Neo__

 

We've all seen the videos and heard the stories of UFO's appearing and disappearing, and moving across the sky with blinding speed in what could only be considered a 'denial of the laws of physics'

I wouldn't take for granted that many on here have seen anything like you describe on video. The mythical manner in which people claim UFO's move for some...ah...er..odd reason never really translates too well on video. You would think we would have dozens and dozens of examples containing such activity (which you seem to assume that such videos do exist and are even remotely credible.)

But your view kind of falls apart from the very beginning with that assertion for me. Ignoring reality is either through a willingness and desire to do so, or through ignorance....although the end result is the same which is a shame.

[edit on 22-11-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]

So you would've been ok with this if I had said something like "Very few of us have ever seen any real good video but we've all heard the stories of UFO's appearing and disappearing, and moving across the sky with blinding speed in what could only be considered a 'denial of the laws of physics'..."




[edit on 23-11-2009 by Neo__]

Originally posted by reject
reply to post by Neo__

 

this should be in the [HOAX] forum...

Q: why should this thread be in the [HOAX] forum?

A: because it is a [HOAX]. share international said a year ago that their maitreya would then be revealed...now, a year later, still nothing. If it looks like a [HOAX], walks like a [HOAX], talks like a [HOAX], chances are, its a [HOAX]

I'm surprised. If you know for certain that this was a [HOAX] then why you didn't bring up the failed prediction of Maitreya by Benjamin Creme in 1982?

Time is a relative thing and "soon" to one person is not soon enough to another. Apparently, at least according to the Masters, this event has already occurred. It simply hasn't "precipitated" yet into our time-frame awareness.

Keep your eyes on the sky. You may be amazed.



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For us to catch up to their level of technology it would take us 30 millennia.

Do you think people really have much of any idea how far this contact would supposedly effect this world? To launch foward to more than 4 thousand years of knowledge and science in an instant, the world would change forever.

Not only that but to learn this has been withheld and sequestered for hundreds, if not thousands of years. We are not having contact because we are ready. We are having contact because somebody was playing too many games and now its time to knock on the door. Things have been carefully decided and more poeple are at an approachable level for contact on a massive scale.

These many races have had space travel for more than 17 million years.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

It follows that a complex, planet wide ecosystem is the next most valuable thing in the Universe to consciousness. Species, however, come and go. But a truly rich biosphere will endure as long as it is not compromised.

All developed extraterrestrial races have already impressed on their civilizations that conservation of bio-spheres was and is simply a necessity. This is 245 million to 65 million years ago. They were already teaching their children about conservation of the ecosystem.

The Cainozoic Era: 65 million years ago to present. We are going to get through this and then we are going to get really down into some fun stuff.

[edit on 23-11-2009 by DarkCyrus]