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Fatal H1N1 Cluster in Texas Raises Pandemic Concerns
November 23, 2009
A hospital spokesman has confirmed the second recorded H1N1 related death in Nacogdoches County. The 53-year-old oil rig worker from Enid, Oklahoma died Friday at 3:50 p.m.
The victim checked into Nacogdoches Memorial Hospital last week when he began experiencing severe symptoms.
This update follows the death of his roommate, a 55-year-old oil rig worker from Mississippi, who passed away Thursday morning as a result of H1N1.
The above comments describe the deaths of roommates infected with H1N1. Since the vast majority of H1N1 infections are mild, the death of two roommates within 24 hours of each others raises concerns that they were infected with a lethal contagious form of the virus. Recent reports out of Ukraine has raised concerns that H1N1 with the receptor binding domain change D225G, is such a virus.
Originally posted by AceWombat04
An earlier post in the thread stated that there is "no pneumonia" with these hemorrhagic cases, because "antibiotics do not work."
Someone also said that this "isn't just a little bleeding in the lungs." That's also true. It wouldn't be called hemorrhaging if that were the case. However, even normal seasonal influenza is capable of causing viral pneumonia that results in severely bleeding lesions in the lungs.
None of this necessarily means that we are dealing with a new, or more pathogenic, virus or other agent. This is just something to keep in mind. Again, I'm open to the alternative possibilities as well.
Originally posted by ecoparity
That was a quote from the head of the Ukraine medical examiner's office. He was describing what he saw in the autopsies performed on the Ukraine victims.
He's stated that people died of massive shock and cardiac failure after the virus caused such massive damage to the lungs that oxygen could no longer be delivered. He's describing damage so massive it basically destroyed the lungs completely. There is a huge distinction in what he's seeing and what normal pneumonia and bleeding from the lungs looks like.
You're still comparing apples to oranges. This is NOTHING like what even a bad case of seasonal flu looks like. That's the point the people on the front lines of this keep trying to make over and over and no one seems to want to accept what they're saying.
The large upswing in hospitalizations and the percentage of those hospitalized who are dying is what indicates the change in the virus makes it "worse". Even the people who survive without hospitalization in places where this mutation has occurred are reporting long term health issues.
The first wave of this virus was relatively mild and thank God it didn't kill as many people as expected.
The difference people seem to not appreciate is that the people dying from this virus are mostly children and pregnant women. This is not seasonal flu where the weak and sick are dying (mostly the elderly).
I don't want to scare people and I'm trying to maintain hope but this virus is something people need to respect and take seriously. It is NOT seasonal flu and we had all better pray it does not continue to emulate the 1918 pandemic. If it does, no one who survives will make that mistake ever again.
The WHO and CDC are downplaying the virus just fine. It might be time for people to start facing the truth, however.
Originally posted by AceWombat04
People were suggesting everything from pneumonic plague to an entirely different virus, and all I'm suggesting is that THAT isn't necessarily the case. That's all.
Originally posted by semper_fidelis
I have first hand accounts of a 28 year old woman reporting to Lethbridge Regional Hospital with flu like symptoms...She was turned away and told the usual 'bed rest' etc etc.
Next day, she returned and was admitted for H1N1 and died 8 hours later.