Palin and Satanism/dark doctrines?, page 1
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Topic started on 22-11-2009 @ 05:42 AM by silent thunder
First, let me begin with the serious and sincere disclaimer that this is not intended to be a partisan thread. As far as I am concerned, the Democrat and the Republican leaderships are both guilty of High Treason against the American people. I have no more respect for Obama than I do for Palin. That said, this thread will focus upon the potentially Satanic/Luciferian/NWO aspects of Palin’s belief system.

Exhibit A: Palin flashing the
hand signal which represents Satan. Also known as the “Horned Hand” or “The Mano Cornuto,” this sign is a well-known Luciferian / NWO hand-signal. By clicking on the link above, you can see literally dozens of people using this signal, including Ahmadinejad, Bush, Obama, and the Clintons.



But this is really only the tip of the iceberg. There is much more substantial evidence linking Palin to dark doctrines. Please bear with me as I set forth the case.

First, consider the following:
Sarah Palin has refused to acknowledge belonging to any specific denomination or any particular religious stream. However, it is now well documented that she spent her youth in an Assembly of God church and has regularly attended another AoG church, as well as two Independent Churches. At least three of four of these churches have close ties to prominent organizations and leaders in the Third Wave movement, also known as the New Apostolic Reformation.

This is a worldwide movement so completely ignored by the press that there is no single accepted term that has been coined for the identification for the group. In addition to Third Wave and New Apostolic Reformation, it is also referred to by the names of some of its more extreme theologies, such as Joel's Army and Manifest Sons of Destiny. Its roots are in a revival of the manifestations and beliefs of the New Order of Latter Rain which has been repeatedly condemned by the General Council of the Assemblies of God since 1949.

Source:
www.talk2action.org...

What is the “third wave?” They are a newer and more extreme manifestation of the so-called “Latter Rain movement,” which was banned as a heretical offshoot by the more mainline (but still extreme by many people’s recoknoning) Pentecostal Council of the Assemblies of God churches since 1949.
Info on Latter Rain Movement:
en.wikipedia.org...

The theological intricacies of the controversies surrounding these movements can be difficult to understand. Those who are interested in unraveling this are referred to the background info at this informative site. A more recent condemnation of Third Wave and related Pentecostal movements by the mainline Pentecostals can also be found in the following PDF document:
www.ag.org...

So she’s a member of an extremist Christian group. “What exactly does this have to do with Satanism?,” you may rationally ask. This question will be addressed in due time. First, however, consider the Third Wave in its own right. A good sampling of their doctrines can be found by examining the thought of
Todd Bentley of Joel’s Army. Consider the following:


"Some people snort cocaine, others snort religions," Joel's Army Pastor Roy said while ministering a morning program at Todd Bentley's Lakeland, Fla., revival in late May…

…On stage, Bentley and his team of pastors, yell, chant, and scream "Fire!" and "Bam!" while anointing followers.

The audience members behave as if they are at a psychedelic counterculture festival. One couple jumps up and down twirling red and silver metallic flags. Dyed-haired teenagers pulled in by the revival's presence on Facebook and MySpace wander around looking dazed. Women lay facedown on the floor, convulsing and howling. Fathers wail in tongues as their confused children look on. Strangers lay hands on those who fail to produce tongues or gyrate wildly enough, pressuring them to "let it out."

…Bentley, who claims to be a supernatural healer, is no less over the top, playing his biker-punk appearance and heavy metal theatrics to the hilt. On YouTube, where clips of his most dramatic healings have been condensed into a three-minute highlight reel, Bentley describes God ordering him to kick an elderly lady in the face: "I am thinking, 'God, why is the power of God not moving?' And He said, 'It is because you haven't kicked that women in the face.' And there was, like, this older lady worshipping right in front of the platform and the Holy Spirit spoke to me and the gift of faith came on me. He said, 'Kick her in the face ... with your biker boot.' I inched closer and I went like this [makes kicking motion]: Bam! And just as my boot made contact with her nose, she fell under the power of God."

More at source:
www.alternet.org...

Does this sound “Christian” to you? Kicking an old woman in the face with a “biker boot?” I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Here is a glimpse of what goes on at Third Wave rituals (I cannot bear to call them “sevices”).
YouTube clip:
www.youtube.com...

Note that the bizarre "Holy Laughter Anointing" ritual is central to these rituals and has ABSOLUTELY NO BIBLICAL BACKING OR JUSTIFICATION.

Now we come to the heart of the matter. The following video has been removed from YouTube, but is available here:

vimeo.com...

It documents the controversial visit of Thomas Muthee to the Wasilla, Alaska Assembly of God in 2005, including a prayer service attended by Sarah Palin, Muthee is involved in rituals involving witchcraft and other controversial activities. And Palin was more than a random attendee:

Along with her entire family, Sarah Palin was re-baptized at twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of God in Wasilla, Alaska and she attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002: over two and 1/2 decades.

Source:
www.huffingtonpost.com...

MorningStar University
Perhaps most troubling of all is the connection of Wasella Assembly of God with the so-called “Morningstar University.” Consider the following:
[Wasella] posted on [its] site that [Palin] was a member until 2002 and frequently participates in events there including a recent speech for the graduation ceremony of the Master's Commission class. Just below that notice is an advertisement for a prophetic conference at the church to be led by Steve Thompson who oversees prophetic ministry at Morningstar Ministries,


Here you can see Morningstar Ministries in action, as it were (YouTube clip):
www.youtube.com...

Now I ask you: What kind of “Christian” organization would EVER EVEN CONSIDER using the word “Morningstar” in its name?

The name and concept of the Morningstar is intimately and historically bound up with the figure of Lucifer . As quoted in the preceding link:
Lucifer is a Latin word, literally meaning "light-bearer", which in that language is used as a name for the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, heralding daylight. Use of the word in this sense is uncommon in English, in which "Day Star" or "Morning Star" are more common expressions.

Specifically, see Isaiah 14:
"How( you [Lucifer] are fallen from heaven, O Morningstar, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!”

I urge those of you who consider Palin a “Christian” to look more carefully into the organizations and doctrines with which she is involved. You will discover, I believe, very little biblical backing for the beliefs espoused by these groups. Moreover, you will also see a great deal of extreme thoughts and words. What I have presented here really is only a sampling of what is available on the net about these groups and their sinister agendas.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:01 AM by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
(at the picture)

seriously though...that hand symbol most likely has nothing to do with satan worship. ever since it was first used the religious have claimed its supposed to be the devil.

im pretty sure its not even meant to represent the devil.
ask Dio ( ) the originator of its popular usage.
asylumofmetal.blogspot.com...


other than that, i think shes just a religious nutcase who doesnt even know what she believes and panders to as many people as possible.



[edit on 22-11-2009 by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest]

actually, upon closer examination, ignore what i said about the moloich. ITS NOT EVEN THAT from what it looks like.
www.lifeprint.com...


those damn satanists have stolen SIGN LANGUAGE

[edit on 22-11-2009 by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest]


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:13 AM by 297GT










reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:52 AM by JohnPhoenix
I disagree about deleting this thread. it brings up important points to reflect on just like any other conspiracy thread.

It is valid for this forum no matter how you may disagree with it. I gave you a S&F.

I cannot speak for all the churches or what they believe. I was raised in a popular protestant church and I wondered why the Bible had things in it that they didn't teach.. things Jesus said.. other churches taught them. I wanted truth, so I prayed and fasted.

I visited many Pentecostal type churches. At one, since I was seeking truth, I was told I could have the gifts of the holy Spirit that would prove itself to me by speaking in tongues. I said, How will i know? They said,

" when you hear the words (angelic language) form in your mind, speak them."

I heard the words and spoke them for about 30 seconds. I stopped and I knew this was Not of God. I denounced this right away. In the bible when ever someone spoke in tongues it was never done like this. It felt so wrong to do it.. unnatural. I know the devil can put thoughts and words in your mind if you let him.

I believe this is part of a great deception to pull people away from the true teachings of Jesus. Jesus said try the spirits by the spirits which are His words because they are spirit and life. So I compared this experience to what the bible teaches and that's why I knew it was not of God.

I am not saying this is happening with Sarah Palin, or that church.. just relating my experience.

[edit on 22-11-2009 by JohnPhoenix]


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 09:25 AM by Cedik
reply to post by expat2368



In what way are they shaking in their boots?

She is, i take it, a politician and therefore the object to her endeavors is to work in the administration.

Why are people so obsessed by her? Very strange.

it was all that winking on the tv, has to be something like that



reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 09:30 AM by heyo
regardless of how I feel about it, it's obvious a good amount of work went into this op. Haters-------->

I find it odd they'd call it morningstar, definately, but people are weird. I've given up on settling on any one reason why people do things, instead I get a few of the most likely reasons down pat, then kinda just store it all away till more info comes to light.

It makes me think of this power structure in christianity though. To get to the point, I see this dilemna going on centered around the bible. It is not one book, written at once, but a compilation over the years. What is included in it was decided,essentially, by beaurecrats and government officials under the guise of, I'm sure, the positive growth of one's spirituality.
Now, since many people, including myself, have wondered just how it is that rulers who lived in the middle of 6000 years of human barbarism were somehow adept at knowing what's good for the soul, I'm left wondering, what is trying to convince me that if something is from God that it must be in the bible?
The bible is and always will be the pillar of christianity, but just the bible doesn't endorse something, it doesn't mean GOd doens't endorse it.
I think christianity, or all religions, must be allowed to evolve. The same way that science interprets the nature of the universe, ever learning from itself, so must religion do to interpret the "intangible" universe, if you will.

So, I guess I don't really have a hateon for palin because she thinks outside box. It's not horrible imo to have questions that the bible cannot answer in this day and age.

I could be wrong though. There's a possibility that she's the freakin' antichrist.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 10:06 AM by expat2368
Originally posted by Cedik
reply to
post by expat2368


In what way are they shaking in their boots?

She is, i take it, a politician and therefore the object to her endeavors is to work in the administration.

Why are people so obsessed by her? Very strange.

it was all that winking on the tv, has to be something like that


Think about it. McCain was never meant to win..and "they" picked Palin because they thought she was a nobody that would never get any support. Her popularity surprised the hell out of them, thats the reason people in both the McCain and Obama camp tried to pour cold water on her..and still do. The "political establishment" is frightened of her because she is as she says ROGUE, she is not an insider and appears to be doing everything she can to keep from letting them get their evil hooks in her.
She is the ONLY non-politician politician with the possible exception of Ron Paul that I feel has the best interests of America at heart.
I think a lot of people recognize that and it is the reason for the "obsession" as you call it.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 11:06 AM by On the Edge
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

The hand symbol Palin has shown also signifies "I love you",so that can be confusing.

Now,it turns out that Helen Keller was also an occultist!

Just like the "Yes,We Can" that you see and hear all the time,...played backwards,a common occult practice,says "Thank you,Satan".

See how Satan takes something that could be good but uses it for evil?

(God,on the other hand,can turn evil around and use it for good!)

We're in a battle,folks.



reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 04:35 PM by Cedik
reply to post by expat2368



Thanks for that.

Being in the UK it is understandably hard to appreciate the social climate in the states.

I would distrust her motives. Otherwise why would the MSM show her at all? Anyone who tptb actually distrusted would never receive 5 seconds on our screens.
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