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JFK killed mainly because he wanted to go public about the grays

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posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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There are too many reasons for his assassination that are grounded in firm reality that you would need to dismiss outright in order to embrace the ET angle here. There is no shortage of real world reasons that one can imagine was the catalyst for this tragic event. If you seriously consider the alien angle, you really need to go out of your way to dismiss more plausible explanations first.

I don't think any President, then or now, has the knowledge we seek anyway. I suspect the knowledge we seek is not known by any government in it's totality. Perhaps multiple governments have bits and pieces of the big picture and in order for us to be "ready" for contact all of world's governments would have to share their piece of the puzzle in order to facilitate the next stage of contact or understanding. Who knows?

But I am reasonably sure JFK didn't get shot because of little green men...to many other reasons for several seedy groups to do it that are based a little more in reality.

BUT, I'm curious....let's say he was indeed assassinated as a result of his desire to go public with alien information. What do you think the people that killed him were specifically scared of, and on top of that if JFK did go public what do you think the reaction would have been during those times...both in country and across the globe?

[edit on 17-3-2010 by IgnoreTheFacts]




posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by IntoUFOs

Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
Robert (Bobby) Kennedy was killed by CIA in 1968, as was Martin Luther King. A CIA sniper shot King, Sirhan was innocent.

In July 1999, JFK Jr's plane was sabotaged.


Of course Sirhan is innocent. Oswell too. You always have to have a patsy.


Sirhan killed RFK at point blank in a huge crowd with many eyewitnesses. There's no question he did it.

JFK is less clear.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by sphinx551
 


Ain't it the True Truth Girl ?

As a side note, I am a guy.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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I don't really think this is true not to offend you or anything but i'm pretty sure there is no aliens or gray's on the moon or mar's especialy at the time.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
I'm sorry but my source may be unbelievable. He isn't human. My source is YHWH God...


If that is the case, then you are here to proselytize, not discuss. You cannot have a conversation with someone who thinks they have the almight, omniscient and infalliable on their side. Exercise in futility comes to mind.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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I still tend to lean towards the guy who confessed it (as part of many involved), and was actually in a position to do it... E. Howard Hunt, under orders of LBJ.

www.rollingstone.com...

Personally, I'm likely one of the few CT's that is kind of not disappointed he was killed, just because I think his aims would have been a disaster for this country, and that we'd all be speaking Russian or Chinese right now...but that's just me.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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IgnoreTheFacts, why are you engaging him? He thinks his source on all this is God.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Somebody was telling me that JFK's death had more to do with him coming out about the Fed.

Is that one plausible?

I dont know this history too well.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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This story is no more valid than me saying that JFK's head exploded by using HAARP and time travel technology



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel

Originally posted by IntoUFOs

Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
Robert (Bobby) Kennedy was killed by CIA in 1968, as was Martin Luther King. A CIA sniper shot King, Sirhan was innocent.

In July 1999, JFK Jr's plane was sabotaged.


Of course Sirhan is innocent. Oswell too. You always have to have a patsy.


Sirhan killed RFK at point blank in a huge crowd with many eyewitnesses. There's no question he did it.

JFK is less clear.


Sorry for the delay. Yes. I just meant its a conspiracy. Also sorry I cannot respond to all right now, but believe that HAARP is fake (US govt cannot control weather) and that time travel is impossible. Also Howard Hunt was a CIA disinfo agent.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
There are too many reasons for his assassination that are grounded in firm reality that you would need to dismiss outright in order to embrace the ET angle here. There is no shortage of real world reasons that one can imagine was the catalyst for this tragic event. If you seriously consider the alien angle, you really need to go out of your way to dismiss more plausible explanations first.

I don't think any President, then or now, has the knowledge we seek anyway. I suspect the knowledge we seek is not known by any government in it's totality. Perhaps multiple governments have bits and pieces of the big picture and in order for us to be "ready" for contact all of world's governments would have to share their piece of the puzzle in order to facilitate the next stage of contact or understanding. Who knows?

But I am reasonably sure JFK didn't get shot because of little green men...to many other reasons for several seedy groups to do it that are based a little more in reality.

BUT, I'm curious....let's say he was indeed assassinated as a result of his desire to go public with alien information. What do you think the people that killed him were specifically scared of, and on top of that if JFK did go public what do you think the reaction would have been during those times...both in country and across the globe?

[edit on 17-3-2010 by IgnoreTheFacts]


Great question...I think hysteria and chaos, even revolt possibly.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Sorry to Disagree with you here , but the Most Likey Reasons behind the JFK Assination had more to do with JFK's threat to Close Down the C.I.A's Rouge Covert Operations , along with Deescalating the US Goverments involvement in South East Asia's Communist Insurgency back in 1963 . As for the Alledged " Grey's " Involvement , do you happen to have some Substanciated Proof that they even Existed in Reality according to your Theory in this Thread ? Just asking........


[edit on 17-3-2010 by Zanti Misfit]

[edit on 17-3-2010 by Zanti Misfit]


No I don't sorry but Bay of Pigs was the secondary reason imo. I don't think Vietnam had any to do with it sorry...LBJ knew US faked Tonkin incident as pretext to the war.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by MaxBlack
You can give credit for JFK's death to wanting to reveal the Alien grays, but don't forget that he also wanted to disband the CIA and he wanted to end the control of the FED and had just signed an executive order to produce an American currency. The Executive order was never rescinded.

Getting rid of the CIA or ending the control of the FED would also be motives for killing JFK, but all together it becomes a benefit for all concerned if he dies so that everyone can benefit from the mutual benefit of having JFK killed and removed from any ability to enact what he had in mind.

Conspiracies tend to want to hide the truth, so while I agree that the Alien grays are important but no more important than ending the CIA and the FED would be to those that would stand to lose so much if JFK had been allowed to carry through with his plans for a new America.

Thanks for the posting.


You're welcome. Allen Dulles knew "Saul" (Georgi Visko) shot him, he was a CIA sniper. Bay of Pigs was 1 reason imo.

I don't believe in the ah Federal Bank conspiracy nor Illuminati (highly exaggerated) if those are what you mean. But very thoughtful, detailed intelligent posts here on all this by many.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Did find this intriguing (yet unsubstantiated) CIA document dealing with the subject of UFOs, aliens, Marylin Monroe and JFK but have never been able to authenticate it.








CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY

Country: New York, US

Subject: Marilyn Monroe

Date: 3 August 1962

Report No.: Blocked out

No. Pages: Blocked Out

References: [ROCK DUST?] Project 54

TEXT:
Wiretap of telephone conversation between reporter Dorothy Kilgallen and
[illegible] alone (?) friend Howard Rothberg (A) from wiretap of
telephone conversation [gap] of Marilyn Monroe and Attorney General
Robert Kennedy (B).

Appraisal of Contents: [Blocked Out]

1. Rothberg discussed the apparent [illegible] of subject with Kilgallen
and the [illegible] breakup with the Kennedys. Rothberg told Kilgallen
that she was attending [illegible] Hollywood parties hosted by the
“inner circle” among Hollywood elite and [illegible] and was becoming
the talk of the town again. Rothberg indicated in so many words, that
she had secrets to tell, no doubt, arising from her trists [sic] the
President and the Attorney General. One such [Illegible] mentions visit
by the President at a secret air base for the purpose of Inspecting
things from outer space. Kilgallen replied that she knew what might be
the source of the visit. In the mid-fifties, Kilgallen learned of secret
effort [sic] by US and UK governments to identify [illegible] origins of
crashed spacecraft and dead bodies, from a British government official.
Kilgallen believed the story may have come from the [Illegible] in the
late forties. Kilgallen said if that the story is true, it would
[Illegible] terrible embarrassment [Illegible] Jack and his plans to
have NASA put man on the moon.

2. Subject repeatedly called the Attorney General and complained about
the way she was being ignored by the President and his brother.

3. Subject threatened to hold a press conference and would tell all.

4. Subject made references to “bases” in Cuba and [knew?] [Illegible] of
the President’s plan to kill Castro

5. Subject made reference to her “diary of secrets” and what the
newspapers would do with such disclosures.



Cheers.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by sphinx551
JamesBondLovesLucy,
Do you think real extraterrestrials exist in space somewhere?

Thanks.


Yes I do. I think God created life elsewhere in our galaxy and others. You're welcome.
But grays are disguised demons imo.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
I'm sorry but my source may be unbelievable. He isn't human. My source is YHWH God...


If that is the case, then you are here to proselytize, not discuss. You cannot have a conversation with someone who thinks they have the almight, omniscient and infalliable on their side. Exercise in futility comes to mind.


I may be wrong but I thought He is my source, I credited Him honestly. I hope we can still discuss it as if it were just another theory of course.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by JamesBondLovesLucy
 



Did find this intriguing (yet unsubstantiated) CIA document dealing with the subject of UFOs, aliens, Marylin Monroe and JFK but have never been able to authenticate it.








CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY

Country: New York, US

Subject: Marilyn Monroe

Date: 3 August 1962

Report No.: Blocked out

No. Pages: Blocked Out

References: [ROCK DUST?] Project 54

TEXT:
Wiretap of telephone conversation between reporter Dorothy Kilgallen and
[illegible] alone (?) friend Howard Rothberg (A) from wiretap of
telephone conversation [gap] of Marilyn Monroe and Attorney General
Robert Kennedy (B).

Appraisal of Contents: [Blocked Out]

1. Rothberg discussed the apparent [illegible] of subject with Kilgallen
and the [illegible] breakup with the Kennedys. Rothberg told Kilgallen
that she was attending [illegible] Hollywood parties hosted by the
“inner circle” among Hollywood elite and [illegible] and was becoming
the talk of the town again. Rothberg indicated in so many words, that
she had secrets to tell, no doubt, arising from her trists [sic] the
President and the Attorney General. One such [Illegible] mentions visit
by the President at a secret air base for the purpose of Inspecting
things from outer space. Kilgallen replied that she knew what might be
the source of the visit. In the mid-fifties, Kilgallen learned of secret
effort [sic] by US and UK governments to identify [illegible] origins of
crashed spacecraft and dead bodies, from a British government official.
Kilgallen believed the story may have come from the [Illegible] in the
late forties. Kilgallen said if that the story is true, it would
[Illegible] terrible embarrassment [Illegible] Jack and his plans to
have NASA put man on the moon.

2. Subject repeatedly called the Attorney General and complained about
the way she was being ignored by the President and his brother.

3. Subject threatened to hold a press conference and would tell all.

4. Subject made references to “bases” in Cuba and [knew?] [Illegible] of
the President’s plan to kill Castro

5. Subject made reference to her “diary of secrets” and what the
newspapers would do with such disclosures.



Cheers.


Major thanks. Sorry for delay again. You know Monroe was poisoned right? Someone switched her sleeping pills with poison imo. Interesting.

The CIA never really wanted Castro dead imo...this doco could have disinfo.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
I still tend to lean towards the guy who confessed it (as part of many involved), and was actually in a position to do it... E. Howard Hunt, under orders of LBJ.

www.rollingstone.com...

Personally, I'm likely one of the few CT's that is kind of not disappointed he was killed, just because I think his aims would have been a disaster for this country, and that we'd all be speaking Russian or Chinese right now...but that's just me.


Hunt was a CIA disinfo agent. "Saul" confessed it and was CIA. No offense to your theory.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy

Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by JamesBondLovesLucy
 



Did find this intriguing (yet unsubstantiated) CIA document dealing with the subject of UFOs, aliens, Marylin Monroe and JFK but have never been able to authenticate it.








CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY

Country: New York, US

Subject: Marilyn Monroe

Date: 3 August 1962

Report No.: Blocked out

No. Pages: Blocked Out

References: [ROCK DUST?] Project 54

TEXT:
Wiretap of telephone conversation between reporter Dorothy Kilgallen and
[illegible] alone (?) friend Howard Rothberg (A) from wiretap of
telephone conversation [gap] of Marilyn Monroe and Attorney General
Robert Kennedy (B).

Appraisal of Contents: [Blocked Out]

1. Rothberg discussed the apparent [illegible] of subject with Kilgallen
and the [illegible] breakup with the Kennedys. Rothberg told Kilgallen
that she was attending [illegible] Hollywood parties hosted by the
“inner circle” among Hollywood elite and [illegible] and was becoming
the talk of the town again. Rothberg indicated in so many words, that
she had secrets to tell, no doubt, arising from her trists [sic] the
President and the Attorney General. One such [Illegible] mentions visit
by the President at a secret air base for the purpose of Inspecting
things from outer space. Kilgallen replied that she knew what might be
the source of the visit. In the mid-fifties, Kilgallen learned of secret
effort [sic] by US and UK governments to identify [illegible] origins of
crashed spacecraft and dead bodies, from a British government official.
Kilgallen believed the story may have come from the [Illegible] in the
late forties. Kilgallen said if that the story is true, it would
[Illegible] terrible embarrassment [Illegible] Jack and his plans to
have NASA put man on the moon.

2. Subject repeatedly called the Attorney General and complained about
the way she was being ignored by the President and his brother.

3. Subject threatened to hold a press conference and would tell all.

4. Subject made references to “bases” in Cuba and [knew?] [Illegible] of
the President’s plan to kill Castro

5. Subject made reference to her “diary of secrets” and what the
newspapers would do with such disclosures.



Cheers.


Major thanks. Sorry for delay again. You know Monroe was poisoned right? Someone switched her sleeping pills with poison imo. Interesting.

The CIA never really wanted Castro dead imo...this doco could have disinfo.


Btw CIA disinfo agent Jim Marrs talks about the alleged press conference Monroe was going to hold about aliens in his book Alien Agenda, which is mostly all disinfo.

I would love to post and discuss here more often but am too busy. Great intelligent informed posters here.



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy

Major thanks. Sorry for delay again. You know Monroe was poisoned right? Someone switched her sleeping pills with poison imo. Interesting.



JamesBondLovesLucy, thanks for the reply and I do think there's a few unanswered questions - I don't know if you've seen it but there's an interesting video below about some declassified FBI documents.








Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
The CIA never really wanted Castro dead imo...this doco could have disinfo.


The doco could indeed be disinfo but I thought I'd post it anyway.


[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]




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