Originally posted by Tgautier13
The last thing we need is the actualization of violence against these people. In doing so we play right into their game. Our government spends more GDP on Defense then the rest of the world, they have the "prepare for war" game cornered. What they do not understand and what we must use to disarm them with is a complete dedication to non violence.

Its only possible to win by getting the military on the peoples side.

"All enemies, foreign or domestic" rings any bells?

But its nowhere bad enough yet for them to consider disobeying orders.


[edit on 22-11-2009 by Copernicus]

Paying taxes is a knife to your own throat. Keep doing it as long as the cut isn't too deep and you have vital fluid left to bleed.

But there comes a point when you've got to say "what's mine is mine, I won't let you take any more."

We all have to do this.

Geez, Louise,
Do you have any idea how much it costs to put up a billboard? If I'd had the money to put up a billboard like this throughout the past 8 years, I would have. If the invasion of Iraq and the PATRIOT ACT wasn't enough to shake you from your slumber during the Bush/Cheney administration, then anything else as of late that rouses your attention is of secondary significance when compared to the fact that your head has been buried way, way too deep in your own ass.

Really, who is financing these billboards?

I have a guess, but allow me to add, before this post is deleted, if Obama was indeed a totalitarian Communist as some would prefer you to believe, we would have seen the 1st and 2nd Amendment vanish a year ago.

In my opinion (and sure, I may be wrong), this billboard stems from the fear of socialized Health-Care; specifically, the fear that when tax-payer money finances Socialized Medicine, it would also then finance abortions. Understandably, many of our tax-payers would prefer to not indirectly finance abortions, or what has been called, by some, 'the killing of innocents.'

As F.O.S. as I think many of these X-ian Right Wing Fascists are (as many of them are those who think that bombing Abortion Clinics is an act of 'legitimate' civil disobedience and 'righteous killing'), it is perfectly reasonable in a *Democracy* that tax-money should not finance that which the majority populace deems unworthy of paying for.

Really, if one holds true to this logic of Democracy, then my paying over $110 to the Feds every month for the last eight years to finance a WAR (w/o the approval of Congress, I may add) which I didn't agree with, is all more reason that these folks who bought this billboard and i should have been rioting in arms together years ago-Although contrarily, i GUARANTEE that far more people in the United States would rather see their hard-earned tax money pay for their medical bills rather than funding a bullsh*it open-ended war on Terrorism.

The problem/solution/conundrum is that the Health Care bill will NOT cover abortions, if it is passed, and furthermore, the U.S.A. is STILL at war in Iraq and wasting far more money killing people in the Middle East than we would if we invested in the welfare of the populace of our own Nation.

war
abortion
health care
cap n trade
food safety
vaccine
gun rights
the list goes on and on

There are a many reasons for objecting to our current gov and tptb as there are people objecting. Yup maybe some should have objected sooner, but that is past. We are here now and the straw has arrived for many.

Originally posted by kissy princessI have a guess, but allow me to add, before this post is deleted, if Obama was indeed a totalitarian Communist as some would prefer you to believe, we would have seen the 1st and 2nd Amendment vanish a year ago.

Except he does not have that power.

He would get that power through his current actions: worsening the spending of the country while trying to hamfist legislation that is vastly unpopular that WILL give him a portion of that power, especially when coupled with the power that the last president gave the current, and all future, presidents.

The idea is that Obama's goal is to starve the country of cash, making people desperate for answers (something Obama won on, mind you), and Obama will show up as the answer. Everything has pointed to this so far, including his personality type.

Originally posted by highlyoriginal
Great billboard!

There should be a website that takes donations so we can start putting up billboards across the US. Starting in major cities (NYC, Philly, Hollywood etc...). That would definitely get the message across to some people, especially if there was a website on the billboards that gave FACTUAL information regarding our governments lies/conspiracies and corruption.

I would donate even though I owe so much money to other things (student loans, fines etc.). I bet a lot of people would donate, and it would be an awesome way to revolutionize the truth movement... just my 2cents.

Your last two cents, doesn't matter much to Bush.

He's not the boss anymore.

He asked you to spend when you were penny pinching, and you did. He said you would fix the economy, when he couldn't.

He took your money and blew it on a couple of wars, mostly for personal gain.

Now, your head isn't swimming anymore, you blame the man who has to clean it up.

The rightwing have been shootin' off verbal threats since Obama was elected, and thats it. I see nothing wrong with the billboard even if its advocating violence over the fact the president they didnt vote for aint doing what they want. I say let em' continue to talk off their heads, after all thats all they've seem to be doing for some time now.

And please, dont tell me "when the revolution happens anytime now".... I already heard that over a year ago.... and many times since. Its gettin' boring.

SG

still another use of misdirection ... a well devised plan

it is not government that is the cause of the crisis... people in gov't are the collective FrontMen.


its the Banker and Economist Guilds who are the cause of government policies & actions. They are the puppet masters who hold the marionetts strings.
A certain clique of the Banker Guild hold sway over the Treasury/FederalReserve/NYFed...& from this core all the USA & global CentralBanks tow-the-line,
the banker guild utilize PACs & Lobbysts in various industries to deflect attention from themselves, while constructing the ever more elaborate financial spider-web Snare.

Originally posted by Chett
war
abortion
health care
cap n trade
food safety
vaccine
gun rights
the list goes on and on

There are a many reasons for objecting to our current gov and tptb as there are people objecting. Yup maybe some should have objected sooner, but that is past. We are here now and the straw has arrived for many.

OK, so. where are the great throngs of citizenry in the streets demaanding freedom? Answer: They are on internet sites such as ATS declaring just as soon as it gets a little bit worse we're gonna bla bla bla.

In fact, withholding your taxes will do no harm at all to BigGov, who is used to just printing more money to meet it's needs. Good luck on your bloggers comment "revolution" comrads.
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Originally posted by Copernicus
Its only possible to win by getting the military on the peoples side.

You're right, and for that to happen most of the population must be on the same side or at least neutral.

If we have something like 30% that agree with the government, 30% that are strongly against it and 40% that do not really care then no revolution will make things better, even if it was successful.

Talking about revolutions is easy for people that do not really think of what is needed for a successful revolution and of the consequences, both if it fails and if it succeeds, after a successful revolution there will still be a need for a government, and if that does not happen then the situation becomes completely unpredictable and very sensitive to any influence, foreign or domestic.

PS: I do not really know how things are in the US, but I have witnessed a successful military revolution with two counter-revolution attempts after it, and I know how things were before and what were the reasons behind.

Originally posted by andrewh7

Originally posted by PsykoOps
Let's see how long it stays up. It's clearly advocating terrorism, at least by the governments standard. They're wrong but they make up the rules.

Of course it's advertising the "dictionary definition" of terrorism, but Glenn Beck has taught us that if a Muslim kills people, it is terrorism. If a white guy does it, he is either a patriot or a deranged psycho, dependant on the political affiliation of his victim. If he does it by dropping a bomb from a jet on a school in Gaza, it's self-defense. Now, if a Muslim whose family is killed by that bomb straps a bomb on himself and heads to Israel, he's a terrorist.

Got it?

LOL!!! That is funniest thing I have read in a LONG time!! So F-ing True!!

Its only possible to win by getting the military on the peoples side.

Sorry I disagree....


When its the ppl that PUT THE GOV IN POWER...

ONLY the PEOPLE.....WIL WIN...

Untill People WAKE UP....Then will the REAL POWER will come into efffect...

IF IT WASNT FOR THE PEOPLE POWER, there be no gov!...Rembere that!....

As for the army and the forces...IT WAS THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THEM IN POWER!.......REMBER THAT.....I WANT THE PEOPEL AND THE FORCES TO GET TOGETHER....But untill the HIGHER FORCES WAKE UP TO THIS FACT...Things will be the same....

its so funny, you guys dont get it. They want America pitted in a civil war. "THEY" put it up. They are inciting riots.

What scares me the most about this whole thing is that America is the most heavily armed civilian nation in the world - effectively making it a 200 million man army. Combine that with a national distrust of the people towards its own leaders, a heavily entrenched military presence that has relatives within the dissenters...and you get a highly volatile mix. Honestly, it could go any which way.

In the past year, I have been surprised to find out how much the right wing hates America and hates democracy. Somehow, when America chooses leader they don't like, or policies they don't like, they want to have a revolution. They completely reject the will of the people and throw the sociological equivalent of a juvenile temper tantrum.

That's all this sign is. I think it's laughable.

What a nice billboard - "one small step....."

I just hope that is true revolutionaires behind - and not the government somehow....

Originally posted by romanmel

OK, so. where are the great throngs of citizenry in the streets demaanding freedom? Answer: They are on internet sites such as ATS declaring just as soon as it gets a little bit worse we're gonna bla bla bla.

In fact, withholding your taxes will do no harm at all to BigGov, who is used to just printing more money to meet it's needs. Good luck on your bloggers comment "revolution" comrads.
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Sadly enough its true. I voted with my feet.