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Conspiracies. How many have you debunked?

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posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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Above Top Secret is not just a site to confirm what you know, but is also a resource of investigation. I thought it would be interesting to make a list of some of the Conspiracies I thought were quite important and you can add where you are with this beside each topic. Some of the answers may seem obvious, however, it would be interesting to get some partial statistic from the ATS community.
Your answer is either:

- Conspiracy
I smell something fishy and or/the true nature of this topic is totally classified; we are not being told the truth
- Not sure
I am not sure at the moment. I am interested/investigating
- No Conspiracy
There is no conspiracy here and/or there is nothing untoward that we are not being told
- Rubbish
Utter garbage and/or complete nonsense

Here is the list I've complied:

2012

Aliens/UFOs

9/11

War on Terror

JFK Assassination

Ghosts

Religion

Theory of Evolution

Intelligent Design

Intervention Theory

Chem Trails

Advanced Ancient Civilizations

Swine Flu Pandemic

Hollow Earth

Secret Societies

Reptilians

Area 51


Obviously this is just a select bunch of topics. However, I think it would be interesting for everybody to see these results and if enough people do this I would quantify this into some sort of mini-statistic depending on how many replies I get (if any). Perhaps it's over simplified, but try and answer with one of the 4 options if you can and feel free to justify in a nutshell any reason for doing so.




posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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2012- Rubbish

Aliens/UFOs- Conspiracy

9/11- No Conspiracy

War on Terror- No Conspiracy

JFK Assassination- Conspiracy

Ghosts- Not Sure

Religion- Rubbish

Theory of Evolution- No Conspiracy

Intelligent Design- Rubbish

Intervention Theory- Not Sure

Chem Trails- Rubbish

Advanced Ancient Civilizations- Not Sure

Swine Flu Pandemic- Rubbish

Hollow Earth- Rubbish

Secret Societies- No Conspiracy

Reptilians- Rubbish

Area 51- Conspiracy



Also

I did something like this a long time ago:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 21/11/2009 by OzWeatherman]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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You can't debunk religion because even if you do people will cry.

That said.

2012 - End of the World? Debunked End of a cycle? Not debunked

Aliens/UFOs - Not debunked

9/11 Official Story by 9/11 Commision has been thouroughly debunked

JFK Assassination - They got the wrong guy

Ghosts Not Debunked

Religion Pending

Theory of Evolution - Not debunked

Intelligent Design - Its called sacred geometry

Intervention Theory - Alcoholics Anomynous? A religious cult.

Chem Trails - Not debunked

Advanced Ancient Civilizations - Proven Fact

Swine Flu Pandemic - pure non sense

Hollow Earth - Not debunked

Secret Societies - Proven Fact

Reptilians - No Evidence

Area 51 - Not a conspiracy theory, Fact

[edit on 21-11-2009 by 12.21.12]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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/gratuitous religious remark


2012 rubbish

Aliens/UFOs conspiracy

9/11 conspiracy

War on Terror rubbish

JFK Assassination conspiracy

Ghosts no conspiracy...haven't seen any ghost coverups.

Religion conspiracy

Theory of Evolution not sure of certain things...big bang? lmfao

Intelligent Design no conspiracy/conspiracy...If we could only wrap our heads around the beginning of everything

Intervention Theory If this is aliens controlling gov't then unsure

Chem Trails rubbish/unsure

Advanced Ancient Civilizations conspiracy

Swine Flu Pandemic rubbish

Hollow Earth rubbish

Secret Societies no conspiracy....they don't erally hide most of it.

Reptilians rubbish/unsure

Area 51 No conspiracy it exists(ed)

fun quiz thx for something new op.



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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2012 - Not sure.

Aliens/UFOs - Conspiracy.

9/11 - Definitely a conspiracy.

War on Terror - Conspiracy.

JFK Assassination - Conspiracy.

Ghosts - Not sure.

Religion - Rubbish. Butchered up events.

Theory of Evolution - Rubbish.

Intelligent Design - Not sure.

Intervention Theory - Quite possibly the answer however, not sure.

Chem Trails - Not sure.

Advanced Ancient Civilizations - Conspiracy.

Swine Flu Pandemic - Probable, however as it stands, not sure.

Hollow Earth - Not sure - has a good case.

Secret Societies - Not sure, probably correct.

Reptilians - Rubbish.

Area 51 - Real. Conspiracy.



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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how does evolution make it in the same list as hollow earth?....

2012- rubbish

Aliens/UFOs- not sure but probably not a conspiracy as much as it is the govt. is pretty ignorant about this too

9/11- not sure. mostly think tons of vital stuff has been withheld

War on Terror- rubbish

JFK Assassination- no conspiracy

Ghosts- rubbish

Religion- religion is rubbish but it is a conspiracy

Theory of Evolution- no conspiracy

Intelligent Design- conspiracy to teach religion in the classroom

Intervention Theory- no clue

Chem Trails- rubbish

Advanced Ancient Civilizations- define "advanced"

Swine Flu Pandemic- the whole thing is rubbish

Hollow Earth- rubbish

Secret Societies- hilarious rubbish

Reptilians- even more hilarious rubbish

Area 51- conspiracy in the sense that they really dont want us to know whats there


[edit on 21-11-2009 by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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Impossible to answer in simple terms.

Some of these topics are too vague or broad. For example, UFOs. Obviously there are things in the sky which haven't been identified. Of alien origin... I haven't seen any evidence indicating such is the case. I definitely think there's intelligent extraterrestrial life elsewhere in the universe, but I don't see much plausibility in the claim of government alliances with them.

Others have a kernel of truth which is undeniable from any angle. 9/11, for instance, was a conspiracy no matter how you view it. Either a conspiracy of government to raise a false flag, or a conspiracy of religious fanatics bent on fighting "the infidel invaders"... and all points inbetween. Including the conspiracy that 9/11 did happen as described in the official story - but that it's being promoted by the government to distract away from the real conspiracies like Plamegate. Better to appear a devil than an incompetent.

Others still are "open conspiracies", like Intelligent Design and Masonry. The secrets and motivations of both movements and their organizations are well known - often even proudly admitted. However this doesn't stop some small out-groups from refusing to admit there's very little probability there's anything deeper buried.

And on, and on, and on... mostly built on simple misconceptions, growing frustrations, and an inflated (rather than mitigated) confirmation bias. There's even some that are true in ways their proposer never intended. For example, Icke supposes the world is run by an advanced species of reptilian humanoids in the shape of human beings. This is true, according to the study of cladistics, because our human lineage traces back to an ancestor which was a division from synapsid reptiles - and we can no more detach ourselves from them than we can detach our lineage from our immediate parents or grandparents. Though it is evolution which shifts our shape.

So yeah... sorry, but I don't like simple answers or sound bites.



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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That's totally cool.

And yeah It's perhaps over simplified like I said. Really the idea is to get a rough idea of where people are in terms of these topics, and you've explained some interesting views that corroborate with some of my thoughts.

I am a fan of Icke, and I think everything he says is totally spot on. I admit I've had a difficult time grasping the Reptilians, however I know he's not insane in the slightest. He's perhaps one of the most enlightened people getting his voice out there. So I'm sure he's probably right on the Reptilians, I just need to investigate more before I jump on the bandwagon (if it even has one haha).



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:52 PM
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I'm unsure on all of them. It takes a lot to convince me with a scientific certainty.

jfk - most likely conspiracy

911 = unanswered question in the multitude

religion - organized or?

spirituality - not a conspiracy

2012 - time to carve a new stone

chem trails - not sure, seen no proof ever

ufo = strong possibilities

theory of evolution - too many unaswered questions, same with intelligent design

advanced ancient civilizations - most likely true

swine flu pandemic - rubbish, just a tool

industrial medical complex - vast conspiracy

industrial military complex - vast conspiracy

war on terror - misdirection, see above

hollow earth?

reptilians?

secret societies - exist

ghosts - unsure



posted on Nov, 22 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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too many, and most were my own lol



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