Unburied bodies tell the tale of Detroit — a city in despair, page 1
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Topic started on 21-11-2009 @ 10:41 AM by infinite

Unburied bodies tell the tale of Detroit — a city in despair


www.timesonline.co.uk
The abandoned corpses, in white body bags with number tags tied to each toe, lie one above the other on steel racks inside a giant freezer in Detroit’s central mortuary, like discarded shoes in the back of a wardrobe.

Some have lain here for years, but in recent months the number of unclaimed bodies has reached a record high. For in this city that once symbolised the American Dream many cannot even afford to bury their dead.
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 01:04 PM by pavil
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That's failrly accurate. Detroit has more outlays than taxes being collected. Never a good situation to be in. It's not like they can print more money like the U.S. Federal Govt.

The new Mayor has tried to trim the budget but is running into opposition from the Unions and others. He is fighting an uphill battle with little ammo in his pocket.

Detroit needs to function like a city of 900K. It is still acting like a city of 1.4 M.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 10:20 AM by wayno
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learn how to plant a garden -
and know that you can survive whatever comes along.


There's lots of room in the city to do this considering all the vacant properties.

Areas where derelict buildings have been torn down and removed are now tall grasslands. Friends of mine used to feed the wild pheasants that had taken up residence in surrounding lots.

On another note, Detroit is home to some of the most beautiful architecture and once stately homes. A tour of various neighborhoods would still be something to see; that is, however, if you could overcome your fear. On the ground the people are for the most part as wonderful as ever, but I do not venture there anymore.

Its a shame really.

edit to add: And no, this is not just about Detroit. In my travels around the states you see it everywhere - even in the small towns where industry has moved elsewhere. Very few places in North America can really be described as vibrant anymore.

[edit on 11/22/2009 by wayno]


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 11:46 AM by wayno
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The county does pay for some funerals/burials but they don't have enough funds apparently to keep up with the numbers dying.

What are they going to do if and when the mutated severe form of flu arrives?

My belief is that the expensive form of burial used today is wrong. What is wrong with being put into the ground in a cloth bag, without chemical preservatives, and just let nature take its course like it did for millenia? Plant a tree over the spot. That would be my preference; unfortunately its not an option around here.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 02:28 PM by billybob
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i agree. turn me into back into dirt for the worms and bugs.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:19 PM by marg6043
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Ho my, infinite thanks for bringing this issue, I almost posted the story back last week when it started to make head lines.

This is so sad and is no only Detroit with the problem is many other cities around the nation.

So sad that no even in death people can find peace.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:21 PM by marg6043
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States are starting to run out of unemployment money at least here in GA we has been told in the news that the state only have 130 million left to pay out, some people are going to have a very bad holidays this year.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:35 PM by Nicodeme
I'm from Detroit, and I can tell you that it's a far, far cry from what it used to be. All of Boston, San Francisco and Manhattan can fit within Detroit's city borders with room to spare. That tells you how much room there is in Detroit, and how spread out the population is. Detroit's population peaked at 1.8 million during the 1950s; estimates today put it at around 800,000, a loss of 1 million people.

The government is trying to function as if the city still has 1.8 million souls. It really needs to downsize the city, close off sparsely populated areas and have people gather in more dense areas to make city services more efficient, because right now, everything but the most severe crimes are either ignored or responded to a few hours later by Detroit police. Some weeks your trash isn't picked up. Street lights don't get repaired for years while the streets and sidewalks crumble. Half of the city is abandoned land reverting to prairie and forest once again.

A nice side effect of manufacturing leaving the area is the Detroit river is healthier than it's been in 100 years. Lots of animals are coming back, like beavers, that haven't been seen in decades. While it's nice to see nature make a comeback, the people are suffering. Unemployment in Michigan hovers around 15%, but Detroit's rate is 30%. High school graduation is around 25% (partly artifically low because thousands of kids are leaving the public schools to go to suburban ones or charter schools, when a kid leaves the district, it adds a tally to the drop-out list).

Why has all that happened? A mix of things. Definite racism that persists to this day. Detroit was a majority white city into the 60s, when white flight really took off, though white flight had been going on since the 40s. Whites left because blacks were moving in from the South. In some neighborhoods, literally, brick walls were built to separate whites from blacks. The racism culminated in the 1967 riots, which, besides physically scarring Detroit, left the imprint that the city was not safe and if you could afford to get out, then you should.

Another reason is the extinction of America's manufacturing industry. We all know Detroit is the automobile capital of the world. It's the birthplace of the middle class. Uneducated fathers could raise a family with 4-5 kids and a wife on a good salary from working in a car plant or a related industry. My dad worked at a Chrysler plant and then a small tool and die shop. When those jobs disappeared, there was nothing left to replace them. The high-tech jobs were in California and the South, and they required educated workers. The financial jobs were in New York. There was no industry in Detroit except for the car industry.

There's also the mass corruption and general idiots in office. Kilpatrick was just one of many morons feeding off the system. There were many lower ones taking advantage of loopholes. During a state-appointed audit of the public schools system, a lot of "employees" turned themselves in when given amnesty because they were pulling paychecks even though they weren't technically working there anymore. There's just no oversight.

But Detroiters are strong and resilient. Many are still there because they choose to be there. When I graduate from university, I'd love to go back and live downtown and contribute to the city's rebirth. It's probably not possible given my now-poor choice of field (journalism), but nevertheless the Detroit papers will be the first place I look for work.

America's economy today runs on the idea of electronic wealth. The stock market creates wealth that doesn't actually exist. The countries gaining wealth today are those that are creating physical goods in factories. China, India. You can't base an economy on numbers on a computer screen and expect to maintain supremacy.
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