POLAND: More Low Flying Spraying Reports. Now Pneumonic Plague Symptoms There!

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posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:38 AM
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MORE LOW FLYING SPRAYING REPORTS - POLAND - NOW PNEUMONIC PLAGUE SYMPTOMS THERE!

Reports are coming in of people dying of symptoms similar to the pneunomic plague in an Emergency Room in Bialystok in the north east of Poland.

A doctor reported treating three patients with symptoms similar to the pneumonic plague, including burned lungs. One the patients died in his arms. The doctor said that it appeared be a bacterial infection and that no antibiotics worked. He also thought it could be a more virulent strain of the swine flu.

The victims came from small villages close to Bialystok.



From the same blog a few days earlier:




Reports are coming in of planes flying low tonight over Cracow in Poland also over Derby in the Peak District in the UK.

"We're getting info from our readers in England - there are several slow and low flying planes over Derby "working" for a quite long time (inf from 11;07PM), there is a high wind."



I just don't know what to make about this spraying business.


(Going to see if I can confirm this report from other sources.)


[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]




posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:43 AM
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In your quote it says "there is high wind", you cannot conduct a spraying operation in high wind. And spraying what, are you implying that a bacteria is being spread causing this suspected disease?

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posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Phlegmi
In your quote it says "there is high wind", you cannot conduct a spraying operation in high wind.


Assuming the implications are true, you mean there is some protocol about not effectively spreading a pathogen because of high winds?



Originally posted by Phlegmi
And spraying what, are you implying that a bacteria is being spread causing this suspected disease?


*I'm* not claiming anything... I'm simply reporting the fact that others have reported this activity and that symptoms similar to the Ukrainian pneumonic plague seem to have arrived in Poland.

[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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The following appears to be the source:




Reports are coming in of people dying of symptoms similar to the pneunomic plague in an Emergency Room in Bialystok in the north east of Poland.

A doctor reported treating three patients with symptoms similar to the pneumonic plague, including burned lungs. One the patients died in his arms. The doctor said that it appeared be a bacterial infection and that no antibiotics worked. He also thought it could be a more virulent strain of the swine flu.

The victims came from small villages close to Bialystok.

Low flying aircraft were heard in the region a few nights ago.

Cases similar to the pneumonic plague have also be reported in Lithuania, close to the Polish border and to Bialystok.

The appearance of something resembling the pneumonic plague in Poland shortly after low flying aircraft made carried out unexplained missions during the night time in the same area has parallels with the recent incident in the Ukraine.

Witnesses reported low flying planes carrying out aerosol spraying shortly before the pneumonic plague was diagnosed in victims a few days later.


The Ukrainian government and WHO moved swiftly to declare the swine flu virus had mutated to become more dangerous and implement martial law.

This is an email from Poland:

My friend a doctor who works in Emergency Room in Bialystok (Eastern North of Poland) called me saying that he had 3 cases of patients with symptoms similar to the pneumonic plague. "If it is h1n1, so it means that it has changed for very virulent form and it kills in matter of hours". One patient died in his hands. I do not know what happened to other two. He is going to inform me how's the situation, but he expects it to get much worse. No antibiotic works for the disease!

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Kills in a matter of hours????? That doesn't sound like plague or flu to me.

(Still looking for other sources....)


[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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In case some of you can't believe nefarious things are possible-- even in Poland:




POLISH Doctors Tested Bird Flu Vaccine on Homeless People

Friday, November 20, 2009

Three doctors and six nurses from the town of Grudziadz, Poland, are being investigated on charges that they recruited 350 homeless people into a clinical trial of a vaccine for the H5N1 flu virus without informing them what the study was really about.

Twenty-one people died during the course of the study, significantly higher than the average influenza death rate, which would have led to eight deaths.

"It is in the interests of all doctors that those who are responsible for this are punished," said Poland's health minister, Ewa Kopacz. She said that while no direct link has been proven between the experimental vaccine and the deaths, she does not believe that any of the health care workers implicated should be allowed to practice medicine further.



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posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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What now, we need to look for low flying planes flying suspiciously? What's next? Australia, United Socialist States of Amerika,etc.



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:17 AM
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Oh if anyone see a plane on their places please take a pic of it so we can find the serial number of the plane. That way we can track down the ownership of the plane. If it's own by Baxter that is rather interesting....



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:25 AM
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It's just swine flu people, don't need to panic.



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 10:25 AM
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I couldn't find additional sources confirming the above, but these articles are nonetheless interesting...

Reported Thursday, 2009-11-18 02:00:18:




Over 107,000 flu cases reported in Poland

A total of 107,250 people were infected with seasonal flu or the A/H1N1 flu in Poland between Sept. 1 and Nov. 15, Health Minister Ewa Kopacz said on Tuesday.

In the corresponding period of last year, the number of flu cases amounted to 24,843, Kopacz said after a meeting of the influenza pandemic committee.

According to a report by the National Institute of Hygiene, last week saw a drastic rise of flu cases in Poland, with the number of registered new cases reaching over 41,000, against 3,600in the same period of 2008.

On Nov. 8-15, the average daily number of reported cases per 100,000 persons reached 13.5, one of the biggest amount of cases in this time of the year in the past several years.

So far, unofficially confirmed were less than 300 cases of the H1N1 flu. Two persons have died, several patients including a doctor are in serious or very serious condition.



And this reported a few days earlier:




Poland: man dies from swine flu, possibly first fatality with no other medical problems

A Polish medical official says that a 48-year-old man infected with the swine flu virus has died.

The man could be the first person without any other medical condition to die from the virus in Poland.

...

On Friday, a 37-year-old man with swine flu, liver problems and pneumonia died in Gdansk, becoming the first person in Poland with swine flu to die.



And also from this week:




Despite vocal criticism and an outbreak in Ukraine, the Polish government doesn't plan to buy the A/H1N1 vaccine.

Despite a serious outbreak of swine flu in neighboring Ukraine, the Polish government played it cool last week. Polish Health Minister Ewa Kopacz announced that she was not planning to stock up on swine-flu vaccine until it had been properly tested.

"The A/H1N1 vaccine is being produced by three companies, none of which has been able to assess its long-term effects. Their testing lasted a relatively short amount of time. It is not known whether [the vaccine] is safe for children and pregnant women," the health minister explained at a press conference last week.

Critics of the minister's decision expressed surprise that the European Commission's clearance of three of the swine-flu vaccines for distribution in early October had not been enough to win her trust. Nor was the World Health Organization's October 30 recommendation of the vaccines, including for pregnant women. Vaccinations, meanwhile, have already begun in France, Italy, Germany and the Czech Republic.



See also:



Interesting stuff.

[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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my god they are spraying Nanobots!!

Now i get it
They are using H1N1 flu and other flu in eupore as a cover up so they can spray us with naonbots




So after all this is over the people will blame the flus but will not think it was nanobots causing death in matter of hours!!!!!!!! come on people wake up before its to late.

www.coe.drexel.edu...
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[edit on 21-11-2009 by Agent_USA_Supporter]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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Ive been to poland 3 times over semi lengthy periods, and have visit4d Krakow* is how its spelled, not Cracow* Find the articel hard to belive...the first ity mentioned, biaslstock or whatever, s quite a considerable distance from Krakow. I visited Kraakow, 1992, stayed in warsaw...took a few days to drive to Krakow form warsaw. For planes to be flying low in krakow, and a virus to spray over biaslystock...makes no sense. thier just too far form eachother*



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by ziggy1706
...Krakow* is how its spelled, not Cracow* Find the articel hard to belive...




Krakow vs. Cracow

If you want to get technical about it, the official Polish name for the city is Kraków (with the dash over the "o" making it more of a "u" sound), but "Cracow" has been used in the English language for centuries. During Elizabethan times, when Poland was one of the largest countries in Europe, Cracow was written about often in English, and thousands of British businessmen traveled here.

...

In the end, whether you spell it Cracow or Krakow it's still technically correct...



Originally posted by ziggy1706
For planes to be flying low in krakow, and a virus to spray over biaslystock...makes no sense. thier just too far form eachother*



I don't think it was intended to imply that the alleged spraying in Krakow caused the outbreak in Bialystoc. Rather, I think it implies spaying also could have occurred in Bialystoc.

It will be interesting to see what is confirmed on this story and whether additional cases pop up in Krakow.

[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 12:16 PM
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Its frankly insulting that the media reports that its the swine flu virus that has mutated into this. They must think we are all idiots.

Seems the new plague is not spreading fast enough so they are helping it along by spraying it over the people. I guess they want it in full effect in Europe and USA before the end of the year.


[edit on 21-11-2009 by Copernicus]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 12:22 PM
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I think there is a massive overuse of the phrase "phnemonic plague"!

IF it were this ilness there would be a 97% mortality rate......there clearly isnt. Lets not scare monger



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by blackrabbit1
I think there is a massive overuse of the phrase "phnemonic plague"!


I don't know where you get "massive use". It is specifically used-- as in specifically reported with regards to the situation in the Ukraine and now, Poland.




A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu.



See also:




Pneumonic plague is one of three main forms of plague, all of which are caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. It is more virulent and rarer than bubonic plague. The difference between the versions of plague is simply the location of the infection. Pneumonic plague is an infection in the lung(s), bubonic plague is an infection of the buboes or lymph nodes, while septicemic plague is an infection in the blood stream.

Link.



I don't know whether that specific bacterium has been confirmed in the Ukraine, but the nature and location of the infection seems consistent. Moreover, when used in a lay sense, the distinction hardly seems meaningful.

The impact is relatively the same. You drown in your own blood.

Yikes!




Originally posted by blackrabbit1
IF it were this ilness there would be a 97% mortality rate......there clearly isnt.




Without treatment, the mortality rate from pneumonic plague approaches 100%.


I'm assuming many ARE being treated.


Originally posted by blackrabbit1
Lets not scare monger


Isn't scare mongering when a poster makes stuff up? Is that what I am doing by posting these articles?



[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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Thanks for posting updates on this again loam. I think if I see one of these low flying planes spraying their filth in my town I hope somebody shoots the little bugger down and then all can get a looksie at whats being sprayed and by whom! It's probably just to add some more deaths to their man made swine flu to scare people into giving up more of their rights or something like that!



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by loam

Originally posted by blackrabbit1
Lets not scare monger


Isn't scare mongering when a poster makes stuff up? Is that what I am doing by posting these articles?



[edit on 21-11-2009 by loam]


Scare monger is the new "conspiracy theorist" or "tinfoil hat" expression. Its a term used to make you defensive and derail the thread, or persuade people to not post alarming information.

The term works now because we have actually been scared by the media since 9/11 and now people are no longer taking the threats seriously and are tired of them, so its easy to just throw a "scare monger" in there to make people move on to other threads.

Just my 2 cents. Almost every behavior and reaction we have is programmed into us.


[edit on 21-11-2009 by Copernicus]



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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I don't understand why "low flying planes" automatically means they are spraying something? Is there a local airport near where the sightings were recorded? I'm sure there is at least one airport near Krakow. And if so, then they probably see low flying planes at a relatively slow velocity quite often. The fact that people are getting sick is just a coincidence, I would imagine.

Unless someone provides proof that these low flying planes are actually spraying something, I choose not to believe it. I live and work close to a small-ish airfield here in Louisville, and there are planes that fly fairly low over head about two dozen times a day, no spraying though. Just sayin.



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 02:18 PM
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So instead of using stealth to poison people and commit genocide, they're using "planes"? I guess they are just going Rambo on us huh? No photos? No video?

Just rumors and such?

Maybe the "NWO" has had enough of us and they are getting antsy.

"I don't care if theyski see us in the planeski. We haveski worksi to do. We must use uberski spray machine to killski"



posted on Nov, 21 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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Another thing is to watch for swine deaths,in the alleged affected areas.Doesn't Poland have lots of swine?(Sounds like the intro to a joke...)
It's called swine flu for a reason,y'know.Birds too.
Another population to watch is the ranks of the higher ups in gov't.If these are not getting 'it' THAT would raise red flags,eh?





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