Did George Orwell get it right ?, page 1
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Topic started on 20-11-2009 @ 07:48 PM by randel
First of all, sorry, there might be many threads like this one.

Just finished reading George Orwell: Animal Farm and 1984 and I got a strange felling, his books are coming to life.

Animal Farm describes any western country. All leaders are pigs and lie/enslave the population. The book was a little out of hand, but not far off. The leaders change the rules when they want and because of the bureaucracy we can't find out. Take a look at corporations etc. If a medic receives money he is corrupt, if a Congressman receives it, it is lobby money. Now, who is the usefull one here ?

Also only pigs have the power, no matter whom you choose, he's still a pig.

1984: 3 superpowers fighting each other (on neutral ground), just so that they can keep their population suppressed. It is about communism, but these days ... it's almost the same. The US and UK keep fighting wars that can not end so that they can do whatever they want to their people ( see Patriot Act ). Being politically correct is the same as newspeak - get rid of negative words, you can not commit a crime if you don't have any clue it can be done.

Telecreen - microchip implants, GPS, mobile phones, satellites, all the same.

My opinion: We are not far off from communism (lived in it so I can compare) before we couldn't buy things because they were not for sale, not we can't buy they because we can't afford them.

Communism and capitalism are totally distinct, but now they have one thing in common: we are starting to loose our rights.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 07:54 PM by SLAYER69
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You know it's funny how perspectives change. I remember an old teacher of mine who was a diehard "ColdWar" left over and he gave the impression that Animal Farm fit the former Soviet Union more than what we have in the west, Although I do see your point.





reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 07:57 PM by randel
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Thank you.

I actually stopped reading about 5 years back and started again. I'll look for the book you talked about. I have huge gaps in literature, good thing i read a novel in 2 days.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 08:02 PM by randel
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That is because he was a patriot ... I don't love my country so i don't care, but it's hard for someone who loves his country to admit that his country doesn't care about him.

No matter where you are from Orwell got it right, maybe Canada, or Sweden, Norway ... it seems that cold places are not as messed up as warm ones .

Evil, stupid people hate the cold.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 08:47 PM by AlienChaser
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Very Good!

Having read both 1984 aand Brave New World, I clicked here and browsed the posts, all the while certain in my opinion that surely Orwell was dead nuts to the bullseye, as thoughts drifted around my head comparing the mental imagery from 1984 to the real world we live in today.

Then I read your post.....and clicked the link!

My perspective has been enlightened. It seems that it's a Brave New World after all.

I take something from this site every time, this time it was that link, really got me thinking.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 08:55 PM by randel
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Nice link ... have to read the book. The problem is I'm the Orwell type, i read, drink and see myself at 50 living with a cat and alone.

The idea are more or less the same, smart people are controlled by Orwell, average people by Huxley. In 1984 only the party members were under control, in Brave New World they control us all.

Orwell just couldn't imagine we would become this stupid.

Anyway "Brave New World" sounds great, but as i live it ... not as interesting.

edit for spelling

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