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reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 03:45 PM by Daivana
reply to post by maxxsee



Oh sorry, my bad English but the point is the same, is the bird real?


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 03:51 PM by maxxsee
Originally posted by Encoded05
Hi,

Firstly let me say I am a believer. I cannot see how this massive universe would contain just us.

Im not sure about whether this is a real UFO or a well done fake. But i can tell you its well done.

Firstly the story behind the video and the actual content adds up. As the OP stated, he only noticed the UFO about a year after it was filmed. Thus the music and copyright could be from the original edit. Maybe he just whacked a zoom/pan on and thought screw it. And as someone said, HD UFO videos are hard to come by, maybe paranoia caused the copyright? And from a film makers perspective music is better than 2 minutes of distorted silence.

Whatever the object in question is, its not a umbrella. Without some blatant editing, youd see the object flap JUST like the flag behind it. And it is behind the object, you can see this especially at 1.35 onwards. Plus umbrella have ridges don't they?

As for pondering on the possible use of CGI or other special effects, it is possible but in my experience (as a moving image student for 2 and a half years) the way the zoom/pan creates distortion in perfect relation to the rest of the visual is definitely impressive. Editing it in would cause slight anomalies around the object, due to having to constantly re-size and pan the object itself. Although for all i know this guy could be very skilled in special effects, but i doubt it.

The best explanation other than real, is that its a placed object on a transparent or dark pole, with the sole purpose of hoaxing a film. What with the edited zoom and story told however, you cant 100% debunk it.

First of all let me say thanks for taking my video seriously. Your point about the shape of the object and how that doesn't match a umbrella is my thought as well.

Well I guess someone could have placed a saucer shaper object on a transparent pole. That would be the only explanation. But why would they do this? I got my summerplace there. I've never heard anyone talk about ufos there before. It looks just like in the vid with no ufo in it.
Also they would have had to place this saucershaped thing infront of the bushes and everything at the time of me filming this sequence trying to catch a ufo on tape. What would the odds be?
Well that pretty much seals the deal for me if someone else doesn't have anything else to add.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:03 PM by Encoded05
Originally posted by maxxsee
Originally posted by Encoded05
Hi,

Firstly let me say I am a believer. I cannot see how this massive universe would contain just us.

Im not sure about whether this is a real UFO or a well done fake. But i can tell you its well done.

Firstly the story behind the video and the actual content adds up. As the OP stated, he only noticed the UFO about a year after it was filmed. Thus the music and copyright could be from the original edit. Maybe he just whacked a zoom/pan on and thought screw it. And as someone said, HD UFO videos are hard to come by, maybe paranoia caused the copyright? And from a film makers perspective music is better than 2 minutes of distorted silence.

Whatever the object in question is, its not a umbrella. Without some blatant editing, youd see the object flap JUST like the flag behind it. And it is behind the object, you can see this especially at 1.35 onwards. Plus umbrella have ridges don't they?

As for pondering on the possible use of CGI or other special effects, it is possible but in my experience (as a moving image student for 2 and a half years) the way the zoom/pan creates distortion in perfect relation to the rest of the visual is definitely impressive. Editing it in would cause slight anomalies around the object, due to having to constantly re-size and pan the object itself. Although for all i know this guy could be very skilled in special effects, but i doubt it.

The best explanation other than real, is that its a placed object on a transparent or dark pole, with the sole purpose of hoaxing a film. What with the edited zoom and story told however, you cant 100% debunk it.

First of all let me say thanks for taking my video seriously. Your point about the shape of the object and how that doesn't match a umbrella is my thought as well.

Well I guess someone could have placed a saucer shaper object on a transparent pole. That would be the only explanation. But why would they do this? I got my summerplace there. I've never heard anyone talk about ufos there before. It looks just like in the vid with no ufo in it.
Also they would have had to place this saucershaped thing infront of the bushes and everything at the time of me filming this sequence trying to catch a ufo on tape. What would the odds be?
Well that pretty much seals the deal for me if someone else doesn't have anything else to add.


Yea it would be an odd thing to do. If someone was that determined they couldv just made the video themselves. But then again for all i know you could have placed it there...... but i doubt that as the whole need for a pan/zoom in relation to your story about spotting it a year later seems genuine. Why would anyone set up a ufo video then edit a zoom in?? Why not just zoom with the cam??? Maybe your just being clever here, but id be clutching at my debunking straws saying you are.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:11 PM by Daivana
reply to post by Encoded05


Why not?? No really why not?

The bird makes it more realistic, as you say it's not hard to animate it in the video so why not??


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:20 PM by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by maxxsee


second small clip with sound full hd 17 mb
www.2shared.com...


is this the full clip? I was under the impression that the footage was longer than that.... Am I Mistaken or did you only upload a small portion of the full raw footage with sound?

If that is the case why are you so hesitant to upload the full video with sound?
So what's up? I mean, the one you uploaded with no sound was over 200 MB.. But this one with sound is a mere 17 MB.....


Uploading the full unedited clip WITH sound is what is needed to make an accurate analysis of this video. With out that we cannot. You stated you want a video analysis so I just do not understand your hesitance to post the raw footage with sound... and all of it...

Is there a reason you do not want to? Nobody cares about the sound of your breathing.... Just upload it for us so we can help you out.

[edit on 21-11-2009 by gimme_some_truth]


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:23 PM by Encoded05
Originally posted by Daivana
reply to post by Encoded05


Why not?? No really why not?

The bird makes it more realistic, as you say it's not hard to animate it in the video so why not??


Its realistic enough with the flag flapping. And the start of the footage is in HD, cnt get more realistic than that, privately speaking of course.

Looking back at the 'bird' though, it does look weird. The motion blur, and general look is what im certain to be either a real bird or bat, but its just the directional movement that has stumped me. It flies in almost a perfectly straight path, part from a slight dip to begin with. Not normal for birds.

I dont think its an animation though.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:23 PM by blupblup
reply to post by gimme_some_truth




That's what i was saying in my post before.
Judging by what the OP had said before... i was under the impression that he was editing some of the sound out and showing only a small portion of the video?

Apologies if i got the wrong end of the stick though.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:24 PM by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by gimme_some_truth




That's what i was saying in my post before.
Judging by what the OP had said before... i was under the impression that he was editing some of the sound out and showing only a small portion of the video?

Apologies if i got the wrong end of the stick though.


Oh, I follow you now. My apologies for misunderstanding you.

[edit on 21-11-2009 by gimme_some_truth]


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:28 PM by maxxsee
Originally posted by Encoded05
Originally posted by Daivana
reply to post by Encoded05


Why not?? No really why not?

The bird makes it more realistic, as you say it's not hard to animate it in the video so why not??


Its realistic enough with the flag flapping. And the start of the footage is in HD, cnt get more realistic than that, privately speaking of course.

Looking back at the 'bird' though, it does look weird. The motion blur, and general look is what im certain to be either a real bird or bat, but its just the directional movement that has stumped me. It flies in almost a perfectly straight path, part from a slight dip to begin with. Not normal for birds.

I dont think its an animation though.

Then you should see all the strange fast moving objects I was talking about in the beginning. They look really strange and move in ways no birds can. At a glance they might look like insects, but since they seem to move behind trees and other structures and judging from the size of them they must be atleast birdsized, but moving as I said extremely fast. Too fast for birds.
That being said in this clip the bird moves at the same speed as a normal bird, so it might just be a bird even tough the flightpath might be a bit odd.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 04:29 PM by Akezzon
reply to post by maxxsee


Ahh...it's a form of a Blu-Ray file extension.
some of them should be playable on common players.



The M2TS container format used on Blu-ray discs can contain one of the three mandatory supported video compression formats MPEG-2 Part 2, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC or SMPTE VC-1[10] and audio compression formats such as Dolby Digital, DTS or uncompressed Linear PCM

Some M2TS files can be played with ALLPlayer, MPlayer, Windows Media Player, BSplayer, VLC and other media players, depending on used compression formats in a M2TS file. Some players will need an appropriate codec, component or plugin installed.[citation needed] The file type .m2ts is not always automatically associated with the player, so it may be necessary to open it from the player.
- Source Wikipedia

Need some time to test around.
don't really want to uninstall all the players I have.
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