Originally posted by KeeperOfGenisis

Originally posted by kenochs
Maybe scientists/archaeologists go mum on these subjects because they're tired of dealing with the absurdity of the questions.
Maybe they get mad because overwhelmingly, the archaeological evidence points to the fact that the best humans could do even 9000 years ago was cultivate figs and gather acorns in the fertile crescent.
Maybe they're upset because the whole concept of the serbian pyramid system has been proven to be a cruel hoax visited upon an unwitting tourist population by a metalworker with support from the Serbian Government.
Maybe they're tired of hearing the utterly nonsensical idea of a nuclear detonation in Pakistan or India thousands of years ago.
You owe it to yourself to get educated on human history. It's really fascinating even without pyramids in Bosnia and nuclear war in Pakistan thousands of years ago.
You should check it out.

Just another skeptic i see who cannot believe that an advanced civilization could of exsisted 10,000+ years ago.

There may have been civilizations 10,000+ years ago, but "advanced"? Compared to what? I highly doubt nuclear-level advanced, probably more like Çatalhöyük.

Originally posted by Monts
There are a few simple answers to your questions Durabys.

Archeologists get touchy whenever these questions are raised because it challenges the whole authenticity of their entire eduction. With years upon years of funneling all their time, resources, and thoughts to a specific curriculum, it is no doubt they are upset and touchy whenever a challenge to their knowledge is brought forward. In their view, the "official" history of the world is almost unquestionable, and that is what they are taught. An equivalent would be to walk up to a person who has graduated from business school and tell them that profit is not the focus of enterprise.

As with many sections of study and research/education, the dilemma is conservatism vs new science. As science is growing exponentially, new theories are having harder times being accepted into mainstream education for understandble reasons: with the rate of discoveries and growth, cirriculums, methods of instruction, and entire philosophies and bases of knowledge would have to be updated and changed almost constantly to keep up.

An official acceptance that human history is much more complex and unknown is an issue comparable to the ET/UFO issue. Acceptance would require us to change our entire perspective of who we are and what we are capable of. Acceptance would also create more unanswerable questions than answers- something that the current scientific worldview can't and will never accept. Anything that is not able to produce enough evidence to be studied in a professional manner will be ignored.

Therefore, questioning professional archeologists about these issues could be viewed by some of them as a slap on the face; if they were to accept this idea, it would throw out and make all their education basically pointless, and also would make their studies and careers pointless, because although their is evidence of these civilizations, their is no where near enough evidence to support any kind of theory or hypothesis as to what it means.

All we know about these ancient civilizations is that they existed, and don't exist anymore. There almost no evidence whatsoever about their culture, language, government, infrastructure, history, or fate. We simply know that they existed then, and don't exist now.

Hopefully though, more answers will come forth in the future.

Oh my God! Thank you for a post that actually postulates a reasonable explanation in a calm manner. I cannot believe that I just read a post on this website that doesn't suggest some sort of crazy all-powerful all-controlling organization is at the root of the issue at hand.

Thank you.

PS. No, seriously, guys, ya'll suggest that all archaeoloists are some sort of illuminatti? Comeon!!

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
There is not one shred of conculsive evidence to suggest that there is one civilisation was here over 10 000 years ago, if there was it would be investigated and a very exciting find.

Easy, because nobody is looking.

During the last ice age the sea level was 400 feet below where it is today.

The average depth of the South China Sea is 100 feet deep.

The path of the Nile is different now than it was 15,000 years ago...by miles.

It's common sense to expect people identical to us to act more or less like us. Consider that the majority of humanity lives on or near the coast. Especially if they are a seafaring people.

So there is no evidence because nobody is looking where people would have been living during that time. Because they don't expect to find anything.

I would dearly love to have the money necessary to mount an expedition along these lines.


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Funny....That official history.

three hundred years ago, we were living like thousands years ago.....

suddenly, with a hundred years we came from horses and carriages to send folks in space.......a hundred years.

The official history claims that humans are about 500. 000 years old.

What have our ancestors done all this time.....looking at their footnails growing ??????

Official history is like organized religions.....to keep control over populations.

Dictatorship and censorship over minds. That's all what it is about.

I'm going to venture once more in the cyber psychiatric ward at the hospital of St Conspiracy and offer this: I get that hidden technology from the ancient past was a fab plot twist in Planet of the Apes but can we just stop for one second and think about things? Archeologists or scientists in any discipline are exactly the same as you or I. They are human. Same emotions, same bills, same availability of information.

If it was discovered that there was an advanced civilisation a billion years ago who flew in jet packs and cut their pork chops with a laser then frankly so what?

But the vast majority of people in this field disagree. It doesn't 100% mean they are right, but as much as you think anyone with a degree and a career in what they enjoy are part of a global conspiracy, then I'll just file it under Wishful Thinking.

Some conventional theories (as that is what they are) may indeed turn out to be wrong but that is exactly why archeologists still exist. Discovery. Individual need to find out for themselves.

There have been quite a few absurd postings on this although my favourite was about scientists having to sign a non-disclosure document. Pour some more fuel on the paranoia fire why don't you.

About the only thing I can agree with is that some people 35,000 years ago probably had more common sense than some people today. So yes, I guess in some ways they were more advanced.

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
Ill also address the advanced ancient civlisations theory.
We have thing called a archaeological record.

We have imprints for life activity (all life including dinosaurs) imprinted on the earth going back millions of years, the record shows hominoid developemnent clearly with a intelligence incline.
There is not one shred of conculsive evidence to suggest that there is one civilisation was here over 10 000 years ago, if there was it would be investigated and a very exciting find.
The archaological record is full of past religions and cultures that intefere with WASP TPTB ideals, and that is presented.

That is exactly what they want us to believe.
They have more holes in their "facts" than a swiss cheeze.
As has already been said...there are questions that they CAN NOT answer.
Artifacts that they CAN NOT explain.

I think the reason why they ignore it is because they don't want their careers to end. Having spent tens of thousands of dollars on their educations, it would be a bummer if your career advancement was halted because you endorsed an unpopular view. It takes real courage to go against the mainstream beliefs, and some have paid the price.

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I thank you all that you started the thread up and running. It´s the first time for me to have a thread as big as this.

I was reading mainly answers from critics ... I apologize to you all:
The 3-sided piramid near Sarajevo, wasn´t such a good idea on my part(... without ... further investigation on my part , and bringing more evidence). But the ancient nuclear debris was good because :
a) no crater found = no meteorite
b) if lighting created green glass = why is then in hell this green glass not in the form of fumarolis, created by lighting, but in the form of just molted chunks on the ground.
c) if volcano = why then in hell there wasn´t the last 50.000 years a major volcanic eruption near/in India.

+Mongolia-China border wasteland area "atomically" (no impact crater, no iridium, no ash, no volcano as near as 3000 miles) vitrified like US nuclear test sites ... now hold your breath ... 50.000 years ago.
This last thing Iam going to research more( don´t take it from me like something i read, but something I was told by cons. nut-friend from Slovakia) . I will research the matter better.

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This is my first post reply as I have just joined. This is a very important topic which ends up revolving back to the whole Powers-That-Be. I have spent years in the military, law enforcement, and had my opprotunity to join the CIA (I rethought and declined after I was tired of hiding info from the public)...we are all human and bleed blood so we should not be lied to! There are some VERY serious things going on around us that I'm sure ATS members are already aware of. I have researched a rediculous amount of information revloving around 2012 and other issues with Governments and other organisations hiding the TRUTH from the common person.

I have came to a few conclusions.

1) There is DEFINATELY a conspiracy to our original origins. I have come to find that it is a real possiblity we were absolutely influanced (Engineered?) by another line of life. The Vatican, governments, and even the many other religions as well...I truley believe RELIGION itself was the most important tool of disinformation caused by the few dishonorable ones that we call The Powers That Be. Keeps us consistantly off balanced and fighting...if not fighting then struggling to wonder why BOB next door (Who is another religion) is valitated with his religions beliefts but the bible says 1 true religion??? Tough thing for the spiritually decieved common folk to manage...mean while these few have the knowledge that "Those who from heaven to earth fell" were actually those who explained our orgins and possibly the importance of the human race. Maybe im wrong but there are too many doors of massive disinformation that have been opened to keep us running around like retards while the few sit back and have us work for them as a slave race.

2) The Powers That Be are at their final end...they will be, in a very short amount of time, revealed and judged for decieving mankind...is God an Alien sent to help us?...It is our destiny to be revealed our true purpose, orgins, and universal understanding. The end is basically not the END OF THE WORLD...but the end of this age of disinformation...we can finally get rid of the BS and start living like we were ment to...with harmony, peace, cooperation, purpose, and happiness within the universe not just here on earth. We have to make the jump to a class 1 civilization to be even remotely worth the time of ET's...they have come before to aid our race and all we did is show them we are a corrupt, greedy, sloppy, and dishonorable with the help they gave us. The universe is in charge of the whole system and it favors harmony...some things are going to get pretty bad but it is nesssary for us to crumble this rediculous system and move on to a truely free and harmonious Earth. These next few years you all will be shown truths you have known only inside your heart manifest into reality. A true SCIFI manifestation. You cant hide from what is in your blood...but the Powers That Be have done everything they can to lower your conciousness...they have programed us and we let them. There will be to many events taking place that will have us all looking up as one person saying "Wow...I cant believe its true!" But in the meantime take care of yourself and prepare for hard times!

Look and pay attention (as you have) bacause the most important history EVER your living in!

Look foward to working with you guys!

I think one of the biggest conspiracies is the trend of people that are uneducated in a field saying that those that are educated and experienced in that field are wrong. Many forums and subjects on the site are a good example of this, 9/11, Science , UFO’s, Space, Chemtrails….

Many people seems to like to come to a conclusion and then look for evidence to support that conclusion.

So because of a few dozen anomalies, that exist in any field of science, people think that Archaeologists are all making sure no advances in their field are being made?

Interesting questions, I gave you a flag. However the Turkish are the descendants of the Ionians, not the Minoans (pardon me if I am either late with the correction if someone already made it, I did not read all the pages... or if, for some odd reason you feel I am incorrect...)

Take Care