Is every one and every thing in every government dirty?(rhetorical question)S+F


[edit on 20-11-2009 by genius/idoit]

Wow this is big news and awesome!!! Finally thanks to this hacker we can catch these elites in the giant web of lies that is human derived global warming!!!! Awesome Awesome Awesome

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
We knew the rumors were that they were fudging the numbers.

The question is why?

Because that's all these people have - rumour and innuendo?

Making accusations of dishonesty in some effort to sink a whole field of science in the pursuit of an ideological agenda.

Oh...that's not what you meant. Looks like your words were a tad ambiguous and open to misinterpretation.

:O

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
LOL, thanks for stopping by, mel, always love to read your post.

Good to hear.

Perhaps you'll be clearer in future in expressing yourself, you're not posting private e-mails readily taken out of context ya know.

Anyway, keep digging guys - when you find nothing of great importance, you'll have to move on to find the supersecret island-based submountain server where all the real incriminating stuff is kept.

Originally posted by melatonin
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Anyway, keep digging guys - when you find nothing of great importance, you'll have to move on to find the supersecret island-based submountain server where all the real incriminating stuff is kept.

No need, we always have people, like you, who shows us quite clearly what the agenda of those who have been making the biggest hoax on mankind is all about. Keep doing stuff that matters mela

And BTW, it is clear by now what is actually happening, the global temperatures have been showing a cooling trend, oh but wait CO2 causes warming, and causes cooling, and then causes more warming, to cause cooling right?....

[edit on 20-11-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

The email that bothers me is one there's not a lot of talk about.

It's the one where Philip Jones is talking about how McIntyre is starting to go after the HadCru data.

The data he's referencing would appear to be the original temperature data HadCru was supposed to hold. As I heard the story McIntyre did want to see that data. Others including established scientists eventually joined in the quest. Excuses were offered by Jones for not providing it. Those excuses were investigated, and found to be lacking credibility. Finally with the pressure continuing to mount, Phil Jones claimed the data no longer existed. He claimed it had been destroyed.

OK, so here's why I think that email should matter. Jones appears to be talking like that data did exist in the email. This would be after the point in time the data was supposedly destroyed, wouldn't it? So how can that data be there, but not be there?

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Fox news is on it....check it out


Climate Skeptics See 'Smoking Gun' in Researchers' Leaked E-Mails
Friday, November 20, 2009


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Climatic Research Unit


CRU's main building. Since the server was hacked, the center's site reads, "This website is currently being served from the CRU Emergency Webserver"
Hackers broke into the servers at a prominent British climate research center and leaked years worth of e-mail messages onto the Web, including one with a mysterious reference to a plan to "hide the decline" in data about temperatures.

The Internet is abuzz about the leaked data from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (commonly called Hadley CRU), which has acknowledged the leak of 61MB of confidential data.

Climate change skeptics describe the leaked data as a "smoking gun," evidence of collusion among climatologists and manipulation of data to support the widely held view that climate change is caused by the actions of mankind. The files were reportedly released on a Russian file-serve by an anonymous poster calling himself "FOIA."

In an exclusive interview in Investigate magazine's TGIF Edition, Phil Jones, the head of the Hadley CRU, confirmed that the leaked data is real.

"It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago," he told the magazine, noting that the center has yet to contact the police about the data breach.

TGIF Edition asked Jones about the controversial "hide the decline" comment from an e-mail he wrote in 1999. He told the magazine that there was no intention to mislead, but he had "no idea" what he meant by those words.