An Interesting point on Political Correctness, page 1
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Topic started on 20-11-2009 @ 04:23 AM by woodwardjnr
As much as we like to deride the PC brigade. In many ways Political Correctness has been a good thing for our society.



Surely it's good we no longer use certain words to describe people. Polical correctness, has improved the live of countless people, who used to suffer. I'm talking ethnic minorities, homosexuals, women and the disabled. At worst it's institutionalised politeness

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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:34 AM by spellbound
reply to post by kingoftheworld


Yes,

I believe PC has much to answer for.

It has just made people more hypocritical.



reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:44 AM by spellbound
reply to post by pieman


Have you ever heard that quote "The truth will set you free"?

PC denies the truth.

We should not be told what to say and what not to say, it is oppressive.

And it is not helping humankind.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:47 AM by kingoftheworld
reply to post by pieman


Well it erodes my free speech in that it is preparing us for a bill that will eventually stop us from saying certian phrases and words. On top of that there are now locations where we cant properly speaking our thoughts, such as work or collage.

As for being attacked about speaking our minds, I mean like the Fort Hood shooting. No one questioned the validity of this guy cause he was muslim and they didn't want to be seen as racist or intolerant, so instead of confronting him or a superior, they left it alone ultimately leading to a national tradegy.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:56 AM by spellbound
reply to post by DataWraith


You hit the nail on the head.

Older people call a spade a spade and do not beat around the bush and at least you know where you are with them, even if you get offended.

This PC stuff is just lying actually.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:01 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Their is a difference between political correctness and civility. Political correctness has never been about being polite but has been about making other people wrong and claiming the moral high ground in doing so. Civility or politeness on the other hand has always been about speaking to others with respect. An example of political correctness is the proclivity towards describing a person with a hyphenated nationality such as "African-American" or "Mexican-American" and so on. It has become politically correct to use such language but one who is civil or polite need not rely upon such labels and can merely describe them as the gentleman or gentlewoman or kind sir or kind madam, without worrying about their race or nationality. My esteemed colleague or my worthy adversary are terms of civility and politeness, but terms such as "neo-con" and "far left liberal" are for some reason politically correct.

Political correctness has become an inferior replacement for civility and even worse a thinly veiled disguise for disrespect. It is better to show others respect even if you aren't sure they deserve it and simply give them the benefit of the doubt that they do deserve it. Even if one removes all doubt and demonstrates they are not so worthy of respect, why not speak to them respectfully if for no other reason than to maintain the level of civility on your own end? One who is civil will not begin to lecture others on what should and shouldn't be said but will instead simply speak in respectful terms regardless of how that person is spoken to. Of course, I suppose I am somewhat guilty of lecturing now, so what the heck do I know? I am just saying, that's all!


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:04 AM by spellbound
reply to post by blupblup


I don't think the truth denies any truth - it is just the truth.

But no-one knows it, unfortunately.

Except that PC is not the truth.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:07 AM by spellbound
reply to post by TSOM87


You don't like PC, and yet you don't like people saying it is wrong.

So where do you stand?



reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:37 AM by CX
reply to post by woodwardjnr


Thank you for that, starred and flagged.

I agree that being PC has been a good thing to a certain extent, in a way i feel it has taught people to be more respectful towards others.

I guess you could say that the word, "taught" could be replaced with, "forced", which i also agree with in a lot of cases.

I hate the fact that being PC limits your free speech, however can you imagine how life would be today if there were no laws about racism, or any ism for that matter?

The level of PC'ness is the thing for me. Calling someone who is black a derogatory name is bang out of order, but banning the word black in childrens nursery rhymes is nothing less than stupidity bordering on insanity.

This changes with each individual too, i've worked at schools where we were really hot on racial quality and all that, and one week we were told to refer to the children as "black", another week "coloured", it changed regularly.

Some people may think that being PC is just covering up your real thoughts. Maybe so. Theres such a thing as social manners though, rare these days but good to learn.

You might want to call someone something due to the colour of their skin, or because of their cultural habits. If so, i say i'm glad the PC brigade frowns upon this. It's rude, it's ignorant and if the boot were on the other foot we'd all be moaning our backsides off.

It's a difficult one, and a subject there will be many opinions on. IMO it just boils down to manners and respect, if everyone had these we would have no damn need for the PC brigade.

I reckon manners and respect should be part of the national curriculum in schools for the day they start as a toddler, to the day they leave.

This is old man CX, sighning out....BRING BACK THE BIRCH!!!

CX.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:38 AM by TSOM87
Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by TSOM87


You don't like PC, and yet you don't like people saying it is wrong.

So where do you stand?


I get sick of people saying what i quoted. I allways seem to see those lines. I don't have a problem with people saying its wrong. I wish people would come out and pull down PC like they did the Berlin Wall.

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Sometimes you'll get the mob who just love to see them selfs type (rebel) against PC, though in reality they are slaves to PC.

Tsom87


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:53 AM by spellbound
reply to post by TSOM87


OK, but you seem to be saying both yes and no.

All I want to know is where you stand?

And a lot of people like to be quoted - so, sorry.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 07:06 AM by blupblup
Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by blupblup


I don't think the truth denies any truth - it is just the truth.

But no-one knows it, unfortunately.

Except that PC is not the truth.




Talking in riddles is not an answer.
What "Truth" does Political Correctness deny you...or anyone?
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