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reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:28 PM by tamusan
reply to post by Ethereal Gargoyle



I'll agree with shouldn't buy fur from anywhere, and add shouldn't buy anything from China.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 06:04 PM by tamusan
Just to get the debate going in a healthy direction, here is an article from the wall street journal to consider.

This is one bear market investors actually seem to like


Unfortunately, some bear farms treated these animals cruelly in past years, piling them into tiny cages and extracting the bile using inhumane methods with implanted tubes and metal catheters. The Chinese government shut down many of these farms and introduced standards to protect the bears. To ensure that the bears are in no pain, Gui Zhen Tang says it employs a method called “no-tube drainage” to harvest the bear bile. In fact, the local ministry of pharmaceutical health designated the company’s base a “bear gall demonstration research base.” The company was also involved in drafting two industry standards for black bear breeding and bear bile processing and storage.


Outward appearances would lead one to belive the Chinese governement are trying to clean things up a little. I wonder how this is exteneded to other animals.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 06:05 PM by kyred
I don't buy fur from anyone, certainly not from China. Bunny furs from the U.S. are really good and can be made into great mittens. But not baby bunny furs. The adults are much more mature and so can ward off cold and wet much better than the baby furs that have just a superficial warmth to them and will deteriorate much faster than adult bunny fur. But one of those naked female PETA protesters I have seen in photos is welcome to come round here and change my mind.
But seriously, why skin an animal for it's fur, when one can raise and love a critter and just shear it's hair and turn it into warm clothes, or a nice rug or blanket. Flokati blankets and a beautiful rug I used as a blanket when I was in northern Greece and then as a rug, like it was intended to be used for, later, made in Therma, Greece, were really great. And no animals were seriously harmed in the process of making these items. By seriously, I mean they weren't killed, but might have endured some embarassment from having their bodies shaved.

Ya know, peacock feathers are really cool to use as decorations. Some folks actually pull the feathers out of male peacocks. That's just cruel. Male peacocks lose their colorful tails once a year. No need to pluck. Just walk about and pick up the feathers. They come out in their good ole time. Once a male loses his beautiful feathers, he goes into hiding and is embarassed by his nakedness. There's no need to force this upon him. By the way, peacocks are very friendly and loving critters to the people who care for them.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 10:05 AM by Ethereal Gargoyle
Originally posted by tamusan
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I'll agree with shouldn't buy fur from anywhere, and add shouldn't buy anything from China.


Yep, that sounds like a pretty good policy to me. I don't buy anything from China, not if I can help it. (I also boycott some other nations, in case you're wondering. )


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 10:08 AM by AshleyD
reply to post by tensetek



I'm not going to watch the video but have seen terrible stuff on this subject before. The fur trade in China is heinous. Fur in general is heinous but at least many kill the animals before skinning them alive.

Regardless, I'm happy with my cotton coats. It's best to avoid fur completely. Sometimes they sell the fur to foreign makers. So the fur is still from China but the product may say elsewhere. Best to be on the safe side and avoid fur altogether.

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...and add shouldn't buy anything from China.


Agreed. When I go shopping, I check the labels. If it says 'made in China,' it goes right back on the shelf.

[edit on 11/20/2009 by AshleyD]


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 11:13 AM by AshleyD
reply to post by _damon



1). Why do you assume everyone in this thread is American?
2). Why do you assume what our thoughts are concerning American industry?

For example and to show how you have incorrectly jumped to conclusions, I'm a member of HSUS. Why? Because it helps fight against animal cruelty in the states and they're not as crazed as PETA. HSUS actually gets involved in the cruelty that goes on in American slaughter houses, the fur trade, and other areas where animals are not treated humanely. So you wrongfully accused us of not caring what goes on here.

I'm getting tired of those who jump to conclusions in all threads regarding issues with China. You make so many incorrect assumptions stemming from your own prejudice.

If you wish to discuss similar occurrences in the States, please start a thread or feel free to [respectfully] add your information to this one. The thread is big enough. I'd be interested in hearing your information so I can do things to get involved. But it gets old to see members jump into threads like this and feign surprise when members dare to discuss the topic at hand: China.

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