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reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 04:34 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by Syphon



I agree genius/idoit... S&F

Syphon,
Don't you see the giant conspiracy right in front of you. The conspiracy that the United States of America is in the hands of a group of radical Marxists whose whole goal is to destroy this nation that we all love.

There is no greater conspiracy than politics as a whole.



reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:10 PM by Mr Mask
reply to post by LadySkadi



Same old same old? I think his "new polls" are not "the same old polls" if I am correct?

Yeah...maybe "you" are programed to only be interested in a subject for a short time before you move on...if so...bravo, the media has built you well.

Me? I am very interested in watching the nation fall out of love faster with this guy, then they did Bush.

I mean...wow.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:10 PM by genius/idoit
reply to post by LadySkadi



Sooo you think what he is trying to is good for the country your just tired of arguing?OK


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:15 PM by LadySkadi
reply to post by genius/idoit


Sooo you think what he is trying to is good for the country your just tired of arguing? OK


Where in your OP did you mention anything about policy? Here it is again, maybe you can point it out, in case I missed it...

I notice on the threads I've read lately that even the die hard obama fans have been eerily silent.Could it be they finally realized they backed the wrong donkey?Where's all the obama love?The least you can do is admit we were right.There's no shame in it.I know you had the best of intentions.No hard feelings.


To the question you posed, my answer is that I tend not to participate in the recent threads that *seem* to be political bating or that *seem* redundant (either side of the fence) there are plenty of both.


[edit on 19-11-2009 by LadySkadi]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:22 PM by Phlynx
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to
post by Syphon



I agree genius/idoit... S&F

Syphon,
Don't you see the giant conspiracy right in front of you. The conspiracy that the United States of America is in the hands of a group of radical Marxists whose whole goal is to destroy this nation that we all love.

There is no greater conspiracy than politics as a whole.


Actually do some research on Marxism before you start saying bad things about it. It actually has some pretty good ideas. I bet you have no idea what Marxism is about, and your just spewing out Marxism because you think Communism is a scary thing.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:23 PM by LadySkadi
Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to
post by LadySkadi



Yeah...maybe "you" are programed to only be interested in a subject for a short time before you move on...if so...bravo, the media has built you well.


I did not say that the Pres. doesn't have some serious problems to deal with, both in perception and in policy. That wasn't in the topic of the OP, to which I answered. The media doesn't have me overly influenced as you suggest, I don't even have a t.v. so be nice. There are plenty of issues that need to be worked out, if it's even possible to work them out... I'm not holding my breath.

[edit on 19-11-2009 by LadySkadi]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:34 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by Phlynx



Actually I know a fair amount about Marxism as it was a topic I found quite intriguing at one stage in my life. To me, it falls into the category of an idea that sounds good on paper, but doesn't quite work well in the real world where we have people who are power hungry and another and human nature, where a person will generally do as little as possible without chance of a great reward.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:36 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by elaine



So it doesn't bother you that everything Obama and the Dem Congress are proposing are tax increases that will just lead to higher costs for the people and less jobs in America?



reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 06:14 PM by OldDragger
reply to post by elaine



Thats a great idea! It's easy to criticise, but not so easy to solve problems, particularly the severe problems we are facing.
McCain said during the debates that he wanted to buy everyone's mortgages!. How do you think THAT woulda worked out?


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 08:15 PM by SirPatrickHenry
reply to post by elaine



Probably would have done exactly the same thing. We bought a car company, then we continued the No Billionaire Left Behind campaign.

Then we decide lets spend more money. =)

I stumbled across this quote the other day when pertaining to the Current Health Care Bill


"you have a house, you have an unpaid huge mortgage, you have huge credit card debt which is more then what you make a year just in interest, you are making less at work as the years pass by, your spoiled kids want more money out of your credit cards, your wife has expensive habits, and now you decide that you want to ...buy a porsche because it is a good idea"

(I'm all for health care reform, but this bill is crap.)

Health Care Reform is necessary, but why ruin people who already have a decent insurance policy. Do I think that the government should provide some health care, Yea, at the #ing bare minimum, and those people should have to pay for it as well. Health Care is a service, and in this country most of its cost's comes from peoples in ability to just take care of themselves.(Poverty contributes a lot to the not being able to take care of oneself as well, I believe its 70 percent of all health care cost are from Smoking and Obesity.) But to say I should get to see the same Dr. as the bloke down the Road that makes 350,000, because its my right ? No, he pay's his rich Dr. Lots and Lots of money to take EXTRA care of him. Do I think we should help people who can't afford it all together? Yea but when there's the 60 Billion dollars spent every year on Health Care Fraud. Why not address this key issue ? Why should preexisting conditions matter ? Toss all that with the fact that the price of most items used in the health care industry are outrageous , the price of pharmaceuticals being ridiculous
( My Epilpesy med is 400 a month for 60 tablets, cost me more than 6 dollars a day to keep me from having seizures), and the FDA being a bunch of crooks, and finally the BLATANT corruption in Washington when it comes to dealing with these issues.



Honestly, Did you know that ole Donald Rumsfeild is making money off these over hyped potentially dangerous H1N1 Vaccines.


But, Hey, looks to me, this guy is making money off of it too.

money.cnn.com...

Kinda serves his purpose to hype them up eh ?


I've always had the impression if a Politicians lips are moving he's lying, but this man started preaching "Hope" and "Change", # I figured I give it another shot. I ignored key warnings that I KNOW I shouldn't have, of , and voted for the man, cause HELL YEA I wanted "Change", But, Look what has happened ! Whats changed ? What major pressing issues has he fixed that he promised ? At the beginning of office all it would have taken it takes is him to run his mouth to sway some public opinion, get rallies out of the common people, who so vigorously supported him and his campaign, to pass legislation to undo much of Bush's bull#, go against, ALL THE THINGS he talked about the "Clintons" doing and yet when he's giving the chance to help give our Freedom's back with the simple stroke of the PEN, and opening his mouth, he does nothing, but spend money, to help the same rich guys Washington has been in bed with all along. Then says " Well, uhhhhh, it seems, spending this much money, was kinda ... well its a bad idea" HIS MOUTH HAS DONE NOTHING BUT WRITE CHECK'S THAT HE CAN'T CASH. Why ? Cause instead of finding those Real Americans, who believed in "Change" and wanted change, He brought the same old Washington with him. He picked up where George W left off.

Now I sit here in the Middle again, watching the same old #. Failing to realize what the real problems are here. We again got Democrat vs Republican, with obviously no real Americans interest's at heart , still pointing fingers, passing legislation that takes care of there old College buddies, or Old friend's of there family, and all the while while their both whittling away piece by piece the country and Freedoms that our Grandfathers before Grandfathers before Grandfathers had shed blood, fought for and put there lives on the line to conquer so we could have what every born Man & Woman desire, "To be Free, and Independent"

"It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration....agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one....against another....it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption...thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another."

George Washington on the Political Party system.

I realize we tend to not listen to our fathers, but in this case it would seem essential.

Vote them All out in 2012, ALL OF THE SENATE, and a great majority of the House. They are so out of touch with America, what you guys just did, was let people who have very little idea, of how hard it is to work a 40 hour week, and put food on the table, pay the bills, take care of the kids, and pay for gas. They make OVER 100,000 DOLLARS MORE THAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN, for doing nothing but cause problems. You know whats the kicker ????? They got the best health care you can buy..... FOR FREE!

NO MORE PARTIES FOR 2012.





[edit on 19-11-2009 by SirPatrickHenry]
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