Originally posted by tristar
Trace his bloodline and your in for a shock

Since you apparently already have....care to share the information?

So much for all the conspiracy theories about Tony Blair! It seemed like he was all set up to go, right until the very end.

My favorite theory was that the Pope was setting up his plan to destroy the Church of England and take over all of Europe. This was because Tony Blair had recently converted to Catholicism, and then the Pope set up a mechanism for Anglicans to worship in Catholic churches. He was going to somehow use Mr. Blair for this purpose. Great stuff, and obviously a giant crock!

Imagine that...

The guy's a bilderberger.


and maybe David Icke was on to something all along when he called Belgium the financial and political capital for the Illuminati years ago.

And, get this for comedy, this is a classic.

Brown: This is the best decision not only for the UK! And for Europse.

One does hope everyone is getting drunk, because this is the end of all our democratic rights. If there, were any at all.

Mittal, Botín, Quandt just to name the few relatives.

As a Flemish resident of Belgium i can't help to feel a tiny little bit proud that our PM got such an iomportant job.

However, i'm eurosceptic, and i do have some reservations about this whole thing:

To start, this entire election procedure is a scam. It reminds me of the good old USSR days where the politburo elite chose their chairman in secretive gatherings behind closed doors, with copius banquets. Europe in the 2000's is doing what USSR did during the 70's and 80's. You can hardly call this democratic now, can you?
In this light i also want to point out that this entire Lisboa treaty is a scam. The European population rejected it in several referanda in several countries. The way that TPTB in Europe handled this is mindblowing : they just made up second referanda, where they could finally shove this thing down people's throat. Is that the democratic Europe all the elite has their mouths full with?

Herman Van Rompuy may be seen by many as a grey mouse, a weak figure. I don't believe this.
Yes sure has a soft spoken voice, is discrete to the press, but don't fool yourself. He's an extremely intelligent guy. My fear is that he will work mostly behind the screnes, creating a strong presidency, and a strong, top heavy, overpayed and bureaucratic federalistic europe that will meddle more and more in the everyday llife of the sheeple.
He has his network, he's a bilderberger, and he's an avid eurocrat. It's not for nothing that his favourite catchphrase while in office in Belgium was 'rustige vastberadenheid' 'quiet determination'.

He has exerted influence in Belgian politics for decades now. During his reign as PM we saw a disasterous budget deficit, the ignoring of regional demands, the ignoring of the will of the people. and a strenghtening of the federal state against the will of the people. He is not opposed to taxing anything, as long as it doesn't hurt the capital of TPTB, but only the sheeple pay.
In Belgium, just like in Europe he was never elected as PM, he got appointed by the king when the elected PM had to resign due to scandals.

I'm afraid he's going to do this in Europe too: support and expand the vast overpayed European bureacratic system. In an infamous speech for the Bilderberg group he pleaded for more European symbols, unified euro-taxation, a european army, and more European identity to replace those of nation states.

President Van Rompuy is a polyglot, he speaks a lot of languages, is consensual to the elite and has a vast network, and as such can be a potent central figurehead for TPTB in Europe without them losing control.

This is not democracy. These are the first steps to a European federation of overpayed elitist bureaucrats who only care about their wallets, over-regulation, curbing of the power of the states and utter contempt for democracy and the people.

We are talking about a seasoned, experienced, smart and sly politician with big time connections to TPTB, Bilderberg, etc. He HAS an agenda to create a kind of strong european empire together with TPTB and euro top leaders, and the will and skills to do this. Be warned, our freedom is slipping away!

One good point on him though. He has always taken a tough stance on the integration of Turkey into the EU. He is against it, because he sees the dangers of introducing an Islamic country and culture in the Union. Van Rompuy is a practising Catholic and has good ties with European Christan royalty and the Vatican.

Another bit of trivia on him : he likes to write Haiku : the classic Japanese verses.

Edit : typos (hope i have got them all :-) )





[edit on 20-11-2009 by McFlemish]

[edit on 20-11-2009 by McFlemish]

Maybe a little of topic, i don't want this to turn into a Flanders-Wallonian thread. But here we go.

Off course there are nationalists on either side. We have them, and the french speaking part has FDF, who are also nationalists.
I do agree that Brussels is about the only reason that belgium still exists. Nowadays when you cross from north to south they are two entirely different countries. not only language, but economics, culture, social system, way of governance, etc.

I guess Flemish frustration comes from the fact that while they are the economic motor of the land, they have to pay billions a year to the south who are, for the most part living in an outdated socialist culture, where shockingly many people live their life from state handouts.
In return for that we demand more autonomy.
What you see now is the opposite. The minority of Frechspeakers are holding the country hostage by blocking all kind of attempts to negociate, thus leading the country into the standstill where we have been for the last two years.

In a way you can say that the breakup of Belgium started when the French started blocking every path of negociation.

It's really ironic, how such a low key guy like that will bring europe together unified.
Tony Blair isolates britain from europe, and then people want to complain about how he was the best guy for the job. It's really dumb to shy away from the facts. I think this is excellent for europe, and everyone, even the liberals. This is exactly the message europe should be sending to the world.