EXCLUSIVE: CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy , page 9
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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:35 PM by zeuseadam
reply to post by nomercyforliars



I will choose my own heroes for America thank you.. In fact if Andrea was any kind of hero he would tell the truth about this also and move away so I could help the real heros, to me ,of America. The wounded warriors and there families.

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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 11:34 PM by zeuseadam
www.nrhafuturity.com...
AND HERE IS THE HORSE SHOW THAT PAYS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSand dollars to win.



reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 11:34 PM by zeuseadam
www.nrha.com...
Here a horses life is worth alot more than mine it seems after they learned the round collected head down style that brings the top dollar.

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reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 01:06 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by GORGANTHIUM



True.

ABC's flawed CIA 'Black Site Report'

Yesterday, ABC News tried — and largely failed — to put a dent in the news cycle by breathlessly reporting a four-year-old scoop about secret CIA facilities in Eastern Europe. In short: After 9/11, the CIA converted an old Lithuanian horseback-riding academy into a so-called "black site" prison where high-value terrorists were detained and interrogated. The Lithuanian government reportedly agreed to the facility after a 2002 visit from President Bush, during which he pledged American support for Lithuania's inclusion in NATO. (Hey, a mutually beneficial, meaningful accord achieved by an American president on an overseas trip. Go figure.)

When the existence of a network of similar covert facilities became public in 2005, the Lithuanian prison was shut down. ABC played a significant role in breaking the story at the time, exposing three US allies that had agreed to host the CIA prisons: Lithuania, Romania, and Poland. Despite the fact that the controversial sites have been shuttered for years, ABC can't stop flogging the smoldering remains of the story. They're apparently determined to share every last, classified detail of the abandoned program. The CIA has called ABC's pursuit of the story "irresponsible." One might add "gratuitous" in describing yesterday's report.

"It obviously took a lot of effort to keep [the prison] secret," said John Sifton, whose firm One World Research investigates human rights abuses. "There's a reason this stuff gets kept secret."

"It's an embarrassment, and a crime."


Then again it showed up in a news blog, so that doesn't say much.


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reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 02:36 AM by 12.21.12
Alright this is from page 4 of the other thread, what is funny is in bold. Michael Chertoff

Originally posted by urinalcakewalk
Humble hello. Came upon this story by chance, and like a lot of you there just seems to be more to it. Even if not it is a hell of a puzzle.

I have not been into this stuff in years and I have no training whatsoever, but I will try to bring this into another shade of coherency for what its worth. Hashed out this list of names/info as best as I could through the day. Sorry no time line, I suck at math. Feel free to correct any mistakes or false leaps of my logic. Question marks are where I wasn't sure.

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Zeusadam - Doug Phipps, famous Horse trainer from Oregon - Steve Ahlberg sent him on a secret mission to Germany in '99 via Gail P. Wright's MKUltra style manipulation - Turned in Andy Schneider (possibly others) that had to do with 9/11/01 while in Europe - Came home to find his work stolen and lies spread about his past few years in Europe

The German girlfriend - 'A setup' - Got pregnant, sick - Featured in the phone conversation on Youtube from '05, she begins in mixed German until Palma de Mallorica is mentioned, at which point her voice changes to an american accent - Mother of Zeusadam's child, it is believed she gets nervous because thats where he lived and where he trained horses when they met - Her father is a coin collector in Rheinback Germany - possibly linked to terrorists, they are afraid of Zeusadam turning them in(?) because he is American(?)

Tal Shani - Met Zeusadam in Israel - previously worked with Elan Rosenberg - Wrote things Zeus said about horse training predating Clinton Anderson's rise to fame and methods used 'word for word' - (half of the photobucket folder)

Jake Arndt - Died in a boating accident - his family helped the original setting up of Clinton Anderson(?)

Dean Maldenado(Maldonado?) - Real Estate agent in Arizona - Daughter found murdered under a bridge - also helped the original setting up of Clinton Anderson(?)

Thomas Mack - Police officer - Owns a ranch in Boring OR - Zeusadam trained his sister in law's horse named Busy Streakin'(?) - Sister in law's son possibly murdered - another helper in the original setting up of Clinton Anderson

Volker Schmidt - German olympic horse rider - Rode Whoisyourdaddy at the 2004 Futurity - Stood with Clinton Anderson at the 2004 Futurity and laughed while Zeusadam while trying to perform after being beaten and his horse drugged

Jim Babbcock - Horse breeder - Ranch and horses used to set Clinton Anderson up - Best friends with Sam Houston

Sarah Resor(sp) - Silver horse ranch - Controlled all contacts to Zeusadam

John Resor - Silver horse ranch - From Wyoming - Sarah's EX - Friend of Cheny - Possible Skull and Bones fundraiser(?)

Andy Schneider - of Hesson Germany - professional kidnapper - sex slave marketeer - German mafia - friends with arabs in Hamberg - knew many things about 9/11 before it happened - Al Qaeda\Osama's recruiter - Clinton Anderson's best friend - Posted horse training advertisment for Zeusadam, possible proof Zeus was in Germany with Andy 8/11/01

Zeusadam's EX (Lizer) - Married Steve Ahlberg's best friend - Parents are wealthy atheists of questionable moral fiber - Family friends with Steve Ahlberg

George Lizer - Real estate agent in Portland OR(?) - Zeusadam's EX's Father of questionable moral fiber - owns a warehouse in Clackmas OR" - Buddies with Steve Ahlberg - quote:"I will pay 1 million for the perfect murder"

Amanda Ross (Lizer?) - Zeusadam's EX's sister

Russ Brown - Rival horse trainer - Wants to 'kick his ass' - Cotrainer married Zeusadam's EX (Lizer?)

Cotrainer - Russ Brown's horse training partner - EX of Terry Ahlberg

Terry - Cotrainer's EX - married Steve Ahlberg - Recorded threatning Zeusadam if he exposed Clinton Anderson

Steve Ahlberg - Special warfare tactician for the navy - Director of Oregon quarter horse - Assigned Zeusadam to secret mission in Germany

Schernoff's cousin - from Texas - Recorded threatning Zeusadam if he exposed Clinton Anderson

Michael Schernoff - Mob(?)

Dave Belson - from Arizona - Admitted Clinton Anderson is selling Zeus' training system

John Southwick - Italian mafia - Head or Research for the general board of Gloval Ministries in Ohio - Married Zeusadam's sister and controls his family - Attempted to murder Zeusadam when he called CDC about his sickness

Mary Workman - CIA MKUltra hypnotist

Gail P. Wright - CIA MKUltra controller - best friends with Norm Akin

Norm Akin - OR Homeland Security head guy


Andrea Fallani - Italian mafia - Clinton Anderson's best friend - Famous trainer in California - Selling 'aquired' Zeusadam's horse training techniques

Clinton Anderson - Australian - Famous trainer in Ohio - Selling 'aquired' Zeusadam's horse training techniques



reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 02:50 AM by 12.21.12
Michael Chertoff

United States Secretary of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush and co-author of the USA PATRIOT Act.

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He worked in private practice with Latham & Watkins from 1980 to 1983 before being hired as a prosecutor by Rudolph Giuliani, then the U.S. attorney for Manhattan, working on Mafia and political corruption-related cases. In the mid 1990s, Chertoff returned to Latham & Watkins for a brief period, founding the firm's office in Newark, New Jersey.

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Chertoff is the co-author, along with Viet Dinh, of the USA PATRIOT Act, signed into law October 26, 2001

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In 2000, Chertoff worked as special counsel to the New Jersey State Senate Judiciary Committee, investigating racial profiling in New Jersey. He also did some fundraising for George W. Bush[citation needed] and other Republicans[citation needed] during the 2000 election cycle and advised Bush's presidential campaign on criminal justice issues. From 2001 to 2003, he headed the criminal division of the Department of Justice, leading the prosecution's case against terrorist suspect Zacarias Moussaoui and against accounting firm Arthur Andersen for destroying documents relating to the Enron collapse. The prosecution of Arthur Andersen was controversial, as the firm was effectively dissolved, resulting in the loss of 26,000 jobs. The Supreme Court overturned the conviction and the case has not been retried. At the DOJ, he also came under fire as one of the chief architects of the Bush administration's legal strategies in the War on Terror[citation needed], particularly regarding the detainment of thousands of Middle Eastern immigrants[citation needed].



reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 12:43 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by toshly



They knew he would be here, because of the breaking news and he has posted here before.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 01:15 PM by urinalcakewalk
reply to post by 12.21.12



Aye that is very funny! At the time I wrote that list it was just a tool to help keep track of what was going on and who is who in Zeus' story because it was so hard for me to follow without doing so, especially because I am terrible with names. Even still took me a few hours to refresh the details in my mind. I didn't make the connection on who it was due to the way Zeus spelled it. Looked up the misspelled name and got nothing, I just remembered that Zeus said he had mob ties and jotted that down.

As it turns out Zeus was right about that as crazy as it sounded at the time, once we realized who he was talking about. There is definatly more than meets the eye to this story and I have a strong feeling more will come to light that verifies many more of the details as this all unfolds.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 01:46 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by urinalcakewalk



Yes thank you for doing that, it certainly makes things easier to understand. Though Zues has not provided any details about what actually happened on 9/11 he certainly has given us quite a background. As far as I can tell, most everything that Zues has said checks out.
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