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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 03:09 PM by treemanx
Originally posted by zeuseadam
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Thank you then. Ya its the truth RED. Really swear to god. If you knew of me then you would have known I always was honest and had honor. was never a lier or a cheat just wasnt in my nature. Sorry if I misunderstood. My ex girlfriend at that time married my rival trainers co trainer(groom). Before me she had never owned a horse it was really like ...vindictive. So they hated me and where jealouse of all those horses that went on to win the nationals year after year. This guys boss my rival reining trainers ex wife married the head of special warfare for the US navy, Former head of the USA navy seals in charge of secret missions to the middle east and beyond... at least thats what they had me remember in the hypnosis session.. does that help put a in your backyard feel to it?


I think you misunderstood me before when I mentioned Red. Thats not me, but a guy that I was close friends with back then, and even still today. I was hoping that you'd remember me hanging out with Red back in those days.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 03:18 PM by zeuseadam
Originally posted by treemanx
I guess my biggest question is the hardest.

Doug, would it be possible for you to give a very simple explanation of what happened over in Europe? No names or dates, no specific incidents, JUST a general overview of the whole picture? Imagine if you were writing all this in a book, and had to write a summary of the story to fit on the back of a book.

That is a good idea.....dont have to stick to the first draft......
Ever wonder what was going on before 9-11? Was our government close to stoping the highjackers? Could the CIA rendition program have stopped the whole thing? Only one way to know follow and walk through Europe in an Americans boots that was asked to work for Osama Bin Laden...... and after he turned the people in.. after 9-11... after we invaded Iraq and America was in the news every night as killers... He went back and found the girl from the Al Qaeda message the days are pregnant.. and if you think that sounds crazy.... what comes next makes it look tame.... From Oregon, the sea of Galilea in Israel and then through Europe before during and after 9-11....... Walk in these boots through the European mafia, nazis, and the sex trade, muslim, nazi, secret police,skull and bones,and the elite of the world. Know a little part of what was going on behind the scenes from halfway around the world to your backyard... Are there Heros of the world or Alibaba and his forty thieves?

[edit on 20-11-2009 by zeuseadam]


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:05 PM by treemanx
Originally posted by nomercyforliars
Ok i know Doug Phipps and the truth is that a lot of people here in Europe and also in the states tried to help Doug but this guy is full of issues.
He lies whenever he opens his mouth.... he sended the cia to Andys house telling them that Andy is a friend of osama bin laden and they came to attack Andys house figuring out that his office is full of pictures of american horses and cowboys and also the star spangled banner....he loved america since he was a child and he loved visiting this beautiful country.Doug Phipps is brainsick and he calls every single person he ever met a muslim or terrorist or member of a maffia or pimp or nazi or whatever.....
he also impregnate a girl in Germany and he denys his son Justin and never visited him or paid for him
Doug says that Andrea Fappani stole his system of training horses.... here is the truth:
This is Andrea Fappani riding ( an american hero )
www.youtube.com...

This is Doug Phipps riding ( who wants to copy this ? total beginners ride better than this )
www.youtube.com...


Even a Layman can see the difference
Now decide for yourself who is a liar


Ok bub, look here. This is NOT a bash Doug thread, just as much as it is NOT a praise Doug thread. You have stated your opinion in regards to his credibility, and thats as far as it needs to go.

Any personal insults, or mentioning of Dougs son, will be strictly FORBIDDEN from this discussion. It has no place here, and will likely get pulled by site administrators..*MODS*.

Lets keep this discussion on an even keel, without resorting to personal insults. I feel like I am trying to contribute positively to this thread, and you should do the same. Thanks.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:08 PM by treemanx
Originally posted by zeuseadam
Originally posted by treemanx
I guess my biggest question is the hardest.

Doug, would it be possible for you to give a very simple explanation of what happened over in Europe? No names or dates, no specific incidents, JUST a general overview of the whole picture? Imagine if you were writing all this in a book, and had to write a summary of the story to fit on the back of a book.

That is a good idea.....dont have to stick to the first draft......
Ever wonder what was going on before 9-11? Was our government close to stoping the highjackers? Could the CIA rendition program have stopped the whole thing? Only one way to know follow and walk through Europe in an Americans boots that was asked to work for Osama Bin Laden...... and after he turned the people in.. after 9-11... after we invaded Iraq and America was in the news every night as killers... He went back and found the girl from the Al Qaeda message the days are pregnant.. and if you think that sounds crazy.... what comes next makes it look tame.... From Oregon, the sea of Galilea in Israel and then through Europe before during and after 9-11....... Walk in these boots through the European mafia, nazis, and the sex trade, muslim, nazi, secret police,skull and bones,and the elite of the world. Know a little part of what was going on behind the scenes from halfway around the world to your backyard... Are there Heros of the world or Alibaba and his forty thieves?

[edit on 20-11-2009 by zeuseadam]


Great job Doug, this is a good start.

Now how does the hypnotism come into this? Do you have memories from Europe, or were you hypnotized to discover all this info? What information were you trying to expose by having yourself hypnotized?


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 05:57 PM by redmage
Originally posted by nomercyforliars
Doug says that Andrea Fappani stole his system of training horses.... here is the truth:
This is Andrea Fappani riding ( an american hero )
www.youtube.com...

This is Doug Phipps riding ( who wants to copy this ? total beginners ride better than this )
www.youtube.com...


Even a Layman can see the difference
Now decide for yourself who is a liar


Really?

You're joking, right?

You link professional competition footage (on a fully trained horse), and then link what appears to be a training session (with a green horse) as if these situations are worthwhile for comparison; then you actually have the audacity to ask "who is a liar?"

If you truly believe your "evidence" contains anything resembling a valid basis for comparison, then I think you've clearly answered that question for us.

[edit on 11/20/09 by redmage]


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 06:32 PM by treemanx
Originally posted by redmage
Originally posted by nomercyforliars
Doug says that Andrea Fappani stole his system of training horses.... here is the truth:
This is Andrea Fappani riding ( an american hero )
www.youtube.com...

This is Doug Phipps riding ( who wants to copy this ? total beginners ride better than this )
www.youtube.com...


Even a Layman can see the difference
Now decide for yourself who is a liar


Really?

You're joking, right?

You show professional competition footage (on a fully trained horse), and then show what appears to be a training session (with a green horse) as if these situations are worthwhile for comparison; then you actually have the audacity to ask "who is a liar?"

If you truly feel your "evidence" is anything resembling a valid basis for comparison, then I think you've clearly answered that question for us.

[edit on 11/20/09 by redmage]


I almost mentioned this also, but to argue points would be giving some validity to their post.

Since you brought it up, I 100% agree. The videos are of two totally different circumstances. If you search Doug Phipps on youtube, there are videos of him riding and reining every bit as good IMO.

This person's post does nothing to help their cause, and only hurts it. Obviously silly attempt at character assassination.
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