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reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 06:24 PM by MemoryShock
reply to post by wanderingwaldo



Originally posted by MemoryShock
Originally posted by garyo1954
First, I'm still at a loss in tying training horses to anything related with 9/11.



Every year, on Kentucky Derby day, the movers and shakers of the “sport of kings”

Thorough Breds and the Ultra Wealthy

Consider the amount of money it takes to raise champion horses and to breed them. Ever note the 'snobbery of a dog show handler'? Horse Racing/Breeding is the big time.

So if our pal zeus here was involved with horses, then he may just have been considered well enough in his vocation to be commissioned by the elite in this sport. Which would have given him social proximity to Big Money. And where there is money...there is controversy.

I think he may be accurate in plenty of the details here.....

[edit on 13-5-2008 by MemoryShock]

Link to post...

The only thing I would add is towards the end...where there is money there could be more than controversy...and this thread suggests strongly that zeus was onto something.

By the way...Doug's current account is indeed active...I've u2uu'ed him with this link...


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 06:40 PM by toshly
Here's Doug Phipps's youtube account, hes active and still rambling on about this subject under some of his videos - www.youtube.com...

I have contacted him about this discussion.

Interesting stuff

Hopefully I'll get some contact with some insightful knowledge

Here's his twitter - twitter.com...
on his profile theirs a picture of a document Which is too small to decipher.



[edit on 19-11-2009 by toshly]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 08:27 PM by December_Rain
reply to post by wanderingwaldo



I want to give it a try but I find it extremely difficult to explain. However, I'll give it a shot but please don't take this as an accurate analysis.

This is Pre 9/11 stuff- Zeusadam(real name Doug Phipps) an American horse trainer was sent to Germany by a ex-navy seal to train horses for some 'rich-influential people'. While there he learned that few people there had pre knowledge of 9/11 or some major terrorist attack. While there he was offered the chance to work for Osama which he refused. He alerted the authorities there which resulted in several arrests and I believe were also covered in news (links posted in the thread).

He was threatened to not reveal the guy (who was also under protection of Mafia there) who asked him to work for Osama. Then he was sent to Marcala, upon his return he found that his horse training technique was stolen by the guy who asked him to work for Osama through which he has now become one of the most sucessfull horse rider in USA itself.

After returning Zeus/Doug's reputation was destroyed (which he was threatened for earlier) by drugging his horse and associating him with a underage girl. He has now returned to USA with his mind somehow "foggy", uncoherent and has been trying to share his story with everyone from last several years (which has remain to be surprisingly same) through many different forums. He believes he was drugged or some hypnosis used becaue of which he has problem relaying things clearly.

He tried hard on ATS and he asked for help many times for people to help him put all the links and events in a proper manner. Few members tried too help him but later the thread was locked.

There are several other people who tried to analyse what he was saying:
From what I read it seems that Zeus developed some excellent new horse training techiniques, met some very wealth people who brought him to Europe and introduced him to many other wealthy and influential people who are heavily into horses, including wealthy shieks from the middle east. While training horses for these people, it seems that Zeus stumbled upon evidence that these people were involved in the set up of 9-11. This seems to evolve around this Days Are Pregnant tape, that warned of 9-11 before it happened. I suspect Zeus saw the tape on TV, and identified it with one of the places where he had been training horses. He then tried to report it to the authorities, leading to his downfall. These people were too well connected for the authorities to ever take action. Reporting these things to the authorities only resulted in making these people aware that Zeus was aware that they were involved in 9-11 and intended on revealing this to the world. This resulted in Zeus being taken into some sort of custody, and his brain scrammbled some how, and his reputation trashed. In the meantime, other horse trainers not so squeamish about the slaughter of innocents then laid claim to his techniques as their own. Zeus gets dumped back in Oregon, his mind scrambled trying to put the pieces of the puzzle back together.


I think what hes trying to say in a nutshell is that the ex navy seal commodore offered him a job for bin laden pre 911 and he didnt take it/believe him. then 911 happened, he turned him in, and got retaliated upon with death threats and bilogical weapons that made him unable to type coherently (somehow). Somehow the girl being pregnant was part of the background scam, which is them selling his horse training methods on video.


Some more detailed analysis by other members in that thread about what Doug was trying to sayhere, here, here and here.

Here are some posts which links to horse industry and US politicians (shady deals?) - www.abovetopsecret.com...
Here is a post by member who tried to link the Zeus's pregnant women message with Al qaeda's pregnant video- www.abovetopsecret.com...[/url

Also this post - [url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread345497/pg1#pid4425552

There, I tried my best to sum it up but it's not good or even close. Honestly the best way to understand the whole thing is to keep an open mind and just start reading from his first post. It will sound wierd or off the rock or something, but by page 3-4 you will start getting an idea. After page 23 when the attack starts happening on his character the thread starts going downhill.

[edit on 19-11-2009 by December_Rain]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 08:45 PM by WhiteDevil013
reply to post by December_Rain



While I see where you are coming from, and i do agree with you, I think that when someone declares WAR on my country and goes about trying to find ways to harm innocent people, I would do whatever it takes to stop that person and get valuable information out of him to save more innocent lives. Undoubtedly the torture methods in some situations have gone too far, and are reminiscent of draconian era techniques, but that is the job of the commanding officer to make sure that its being done in the right way and the JUST way. Of course we cant go about acting like a bunch of soft, over fed, over entertained Americans, but if you look up the way our POW's were treated even in WWII you will see horrific things done by legitimate "army's"

Furthermore, I personally would have an extremely hard time doing any harm to a civilian or an innocent bystander. My job is to stop the "bad guys" from doing harm to them. So you see there is a major difference. Im sure you and I could debate all day over who the "bad guys" are, but please remember I am on YOUR side, and if/when I get deployed to Afghanistan, if I am handing out water bottles and candy bars to little Afghani kids and some a-hole terrorist blows me up and a group of kids, I hope to GOD that he gets tortured. What would your solution be? We cant ask these people politely to stop.

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[edit on 19-11-2009 by WhiteDevil013]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 08:57 PM by zeuseadam
I was Asked to work for Osama Bin Laden before 9-11.

He was the guy who lured me to Germany right as I had trouble in the states. On the way to give a riding lesson he turned to me and said”>………………………………………………………………………………………………………..”

In fact he said a lot of things.. Id been told by Gail and Gail that I had mouth cancer and was going to die and he asked me to show him my mouth , he said Yes youll die soon but not from that in fact a lot of Americans are going to die soon. He had also said he had Arab friends in Hamberg that would love for me to work for them. There is the sliced open passport wich happened within a month of 9-11, he advertised me as a American trainer with him as my manager on the internet excactly one month before 9-11.

He sad he knew just the perfect girl for me(must have been Yvonne)

He Said he wanted America to get it before his grandparents from WW2 died. He said We almost took over the world three times before and this time we will not fail.(We would be the Nazis)

Him and his friends he grew up with would watch western movies and cheer for the indians when theyd kill a cowboy.

He threatened to feed me to the pigs cause then there is no proof or evidence.

Mikes friends where skin heads from eastern Europe they where polite to me though. He had a frend who would sell horses to arab sheks and double the price from german to english so they liked it when the people couldn’t understand both languages.





More Andy Schneider

Andy liked to hang out with the German mafia guys who dealt with women. He bragged that he would kidnap women and sell them as sex slaves. He also was happy the only thing the police ever caught him for was running a luxery car rental business stealing the cars selling them in eastern europe and collecting the insurance money. He told me he was a dangerouse man right before asking me to work for Osama. Andy sent me a text message on 9-11 or the day before saying “no I kill You” the sim card and phone with this I gave to Gail P wright and Norm Akin(original homeland security for oregon.)

I taped the threat against me from andy while I was in Austrai at Mike Balones ranch near Vienna where he said” I give you one chance to change what you did call the police and tell them you say stupid things this is my only call to you after this it is on your head.”

There was placeed on wittelsbuerger.com how I turned themn in for being nazis working together with the extremist pegging the term nazi terrorist at least two years before the neo nazi terror bust Belgium. A copy of ths recording was on a phone.

I asked Andy to take a lie detector test to theses events and asking me to work for Osama Bin Laden at the USA army base n Germany in fronmt of the USA marnes his response was .. Only one problem asshole the first step you take on german ground youll hear theclinks from the german police and not just the police want you so much…”

Clearwater ranch welcome to Germany

Very old buildings remodeled and rebuilt to resemble a western town in gugelhausen Germany.

The Heileman familly

Heins also said interesting things to me… My father fought in the war on he said the amercans captured the germans and told them to stand behind them then they shot them all but my father escaped… soon america you can stand behind Us………….

He worked in the mnng industry the same as maldonado.


Chorinna and Mike

CORRINAS BOYFREND MIKE FROM EASTERN EUROPE.. Andy sent corinna up to my room she directly took her clothes off and climed into my bed. Then he told mike she was n my room. Then andy left…..

US Army guy watching,other carachters

Bar X Chex and Klavoon

Coming home to macks then pfeiffers

Pete bourdets

Babbcock ranch carlten crowe

To Belsons..

2004 NRHA futurity

Oregon and mels horses(next to blocker ranch)

Contact senator gordon smiths office

Palma de mallorca withi

[edit on 19-11-2009 by zeuseadam]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 09:41 PM by Agent-ATS
reply to post by zeuseadam




zeuseadam

If ATS could arrange it would you do an interview on camera. I'M not saying for me to interview you ( although I would love to ) I'M saying if someone from ATS came to see you and did a taped interview, would you be up for that?

[edit on 19-11-2009 by Agent-ATS]



reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 11:17 PM by redmage
In regards to Zeusadam, he had a few other monikers here as well (sadtruth, and godshorseman were two of them). I also remember his Open letter to Bush, and open letter to Kucinich threads; they might help anyone attempting to piece together the information.

[edit on 11/19/09 by redmage]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 11:21 PM by Guzzeppi
reply to post by redmage

He is full of #. A lie.

Is that what you are trying to say?
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