OBE gone wrong. Devil and holy Mary apparitions, page 1
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Topic started on 18-11-2009 @ 01:54 PM by HanoverFat
Hi, Last friday this happened to me, I thought i'd post it and get some feed back but also to warn people.
After discussing a bit about outer body experiences on ATS forums I was lying in bed and thought i'd experiment a bit more. I found i could get to a state where i was more aware of the energy of the people in the house which had previously been a random event i cant control. Anyway i was experimenting and getting a bit out of my depth. I feel asleep while still in this state and started to have a lucid dream.
In my dream i was sitting in a room with friends around me. Out of nowhere a voice proclaimed that 'satan has been summoned to the room'. this freaked me out and it was immediatly apparent that i was the 'target' for lack of a better word. A very dark and evil presence was felt by all. My friends around me tried to get me out of the chair but it kept on 'warping'(hard to describe this part) around to keep me out of reach. As this evil entity's control of me increased it started ripping me out of the dimension. I remember selfishly grabbing someones hand on the way.
I felt myself being pulled closer and closer to this evil, it actually felt like it had its hand around me. I started saying over and over, 'Go back, go back'. Then i woke up.
This is where # got wierd. I was awake and the evil thing( im actually still having trouble even thinking the name Satan) was still in front of me and it felt like i had seconds before he had me completly. I couldnt move either. Then i saw what i immediatly recognised as Mary standing to my left. She made it clear to me what i had to do. she didnt say anything, it was more a kind command or like, i knowledge of what i had to do. she put her hands together and it was like,
'Start praying NOW!. im helping but it wont be enough if you dont do something too'.
My hands came free and i started to pray. the evil retreated fully after around ten minutes. Thats when i noticed the man to my right. I couldnt identify him but he was obviously gaurding me. then i was shown a chest of some sort. This is the part i still dont undertand. It was big, think of the size of a fridge. it was intricatly designed and had keyholes on it. I got the impression it represented knowledge but im still not sure...
The whole thing lasted around 40mins from falling asleep to being able to move again. I woke up my mother i was so freaked out and learned that around twenty minutes before i woke her she had passed my room on the way to the toilet. she told me that while she was walking by she got a sudden feeling that i was in danger and asked arch-angel micheal and Mary to watch over me!
This whole experience has shaken me and i feel i cant right it off as a dream because i was clearly awake for part of it.
The two reasons for posting this are to get you're opinions on this and also to warn about getting out of your depth in such matters.


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 02:53 PM by DaMod
reply to post by marg6043



I'm pretty sure Satan and Hell come to get you once you are no longer alive, DUH!

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reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 03:06 PM by DaMod
reply to post by HanoverFat



Sounds to me like an attempted possession. You're lucky.

2nd line.


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 03:26 PM by v01i0
reply to post by DaMod



Then I am simply wrong, nothing else.

It was my opinion. You can have yours. No, you are welcome.

-v


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 03:59 PM by Nivcharah
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I completely agree with Marg. It is the conspiracy of control through fear via TPTB that has created this for you. It wasn't real.

See my post under "You Don't Burn In Hell Forever" for a better explanation.

Once you let go of the fear and programming from religion, you will see that it's all good. I promise. But you need to let go of the fear completely and be open to love. L.O.V.E.


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 04:01 PM by DaMod
Originally posted by v01i0
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Then I am simply wrong, nothing else.

It was my opinion. You can have yours. No, you are welcome.

-v


What I meant was if this actually was an event of reality and not a psychological effect then the ramifications would be much different and ultimately negative. The advice required would be different as well.

That's all I was trying to say. No, you are welcome.


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 04:21 PM by WhiteDevil013
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That does sound like a scary experience, however as someone who was purposefully trying to have an OBE, make contact with other beings, or dimensions, you should be well aware of these types of experiences and prepare for them. Although the human brain is powerful beyond our comprehension or understanding, you never know if it is playing tricks on you, or if you really are under attack. Sometimes the line is so blurred it could be a combination of them both. Either way, if you plan on continuing these experiments just be confidant in your ability to protect yourself. And if you see Satan again, tell that bastard he still owes me $20 for that bet on the Raiders!

Although I tend to agree with most of the people who have already responded, just want to add my .02


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 05:12 PM by HanoverFat
thanks very much for your responses. I expected the type of resposes from marg but i had no time to clarify as the ireland match was on!

I'll explain a bit about my situation. as ive said on a previous thread;

www.abovetopsecret.com...,

I feel i awakened last november. since then i have been searching for knowledge/ my spirituality as i am sure you all have been. i am a non-practicing christian and have been following bhuddism(sorry for typo) for a while now. my spiritual beliefs are now dominated by buddha's teachings.

I feel 'guides' or such show themselves in a way that you can understand, and that might be why i interpreted it that way. The most dominent message i recieve was 'yes, an evil force does exist'.
As ive said i am still a bit shaken up, but i have made the persuit of knowledge my main goal so i wont stop, just be more careful.

Can i ask for some opinions on the chest i saw? it is the thing i understand the least. another reaction i had to it is that it contained my sins, but i do not believe in sin!

it felt like the knowledge i persue is to be taken seriously. but i cant decide if it meant to stop all together or to be more carful.



reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 05:21 PM by highlyoriginal
Originally posted by marg6043
Sorry to say this but sounds like your religious upbringing and convictions or perhaps just the guilt of experiencing something new and what your mind feels forbidding, prompted you to have a guilty religious response, also watching to many exorcist movies will do that.

It happens, it happen to me before I learn to free my spirit.

I am still here neither "Satan" or "hell" has come to claim me and to tell you the truth the experiences are more spiritual that any religious believes and teachings ever been.


Quoted for truth. What I know now since my spiritual awakening, has taught me that you can still have a negative experience or be lied to etc. from a bad or some may call 'evil' entity, although I'm not sure where I stand on the whole good vs. evil stuff right now. I mean even though there is a lot of entities on the 2nd sphere that are willing to give out false information, it really doesn't seem to me that they are 'evil' so to speak. And they are only doing what they are required to do because of their laws... so I can't call them evil for doing what they are put there to do.

Honestly OP, you need to re-evaulate what your beliefs are. I don't hate on people for following religions, but you need to drop everything you believe in right now and figure things out for yourself if you want to deny ignorance and seek truth. But hey, no ones going to make you do that. If you want to have more positive experiences I suggest you try doing that though... I mean you can still have 'tough' experiences, but for the most part it may be a tough experience after a spiritual awakening because of all the knowledge you are being given, and learning. My first experience scared me a bit after it was over because I now knew things for fact that just hours before I hadn't, and it flipped my world upside down for a bit. But once you know what to do with the information (learning to integrate it into your life in positive ways), you'll be fine.

Good luck, and I hope 'satan' leaves ya alone. Just know there is no such thing as satan, but then again if you believe there is, then I guess there is one... at least in your world.


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 05:40 PM by cindymars
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I am just thinking because it was your astral experience but regarding the chest, coming from your Buddhist frame of reference, it could represent unlocking your inner awareness.

Just a thought.

Good luck.


reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 05:41 PM by bsbray11
Have to agree that the religion instilled upon you in your past is raring its ugly head.

Originally posted by HanoverFat
In my dream i was sitting in a room with friends around me. Out of nowhere a voice proclaimed that 'satan has been summoned to the room'. this freaked me out and it was immediatly apparent that i was the 'target' for lack of a better word. A very dark and evil presence was felt by all. My friends around me tried to get me out of the chair but it kept on 'warping'(hard to describe this part) around to keep me out of reach. As this evil entity's control of me increased it started ripping me out of the dimension. I remember selfishly grabbing someones hand on the way.


This is how I personally would have experienced the exact same situation.

"Satan has been summoned to the room."

I would find that humorous, and would welcome him. If I found I were a "target," I would go along with it.

Taoism and Zen Buddhism have convinced me to a very deep point that there is no such thing as "good" and "evil" and all experiences are relative. Thus what's good for somebody is bad for someone else and vice versa. Satan may be "evil" to millions of people but I bet he's having a JOLLY good time!

There is room in the this universe for everyone's beliefs to co-exist, and they do. The more emotional you feed your beliefs, the more real they become. Some very strange things have been manifested in this world, everything from what you describe, to airplanes manifesting overhead, even entire legions of Civil War ghost armies have been witnessed by many people.

If you want to pursue knowledge, I'm all for that. But feeding into fear is something I'm not very keen on, except for learning how fear operates. It is the opposite of love. Which is why I NEVER trust a fearful message, no matter what the apparent content.
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