From one side of the mouths of conspiricists there is the assurance that our elected officials are an evil axis who lie all the time. From the other side of the same mouth then comes surprise when our elected officials actually act the way they think they are all the time.
Great day in the morning, don't you get it by now? TPTB, the all knowing all powerful entity of conspiracy land, runs EVERYTHING.
And you are shocked that Obama slipped something? Look at Bush's record of military faux-pas, let alone his very public snafus.
Republican, Democrat, they don't exist. One set of strings for all the players while the puppet masters pull them.
Have a seat, the show's just starting to get interesting...

Originally posted by topsecretombomb
This is complete total hogwash. As I recall, people who were listed as hijackers for 9/11 came forward and claimed they were not a part of the attacks.

But alive and well in their home countries!? If their intel was wrong about these guys, what makes you all think they could find the 'mastermind' behind the whole operation????

TSTB, this is the real puzzle. There are three probable scenarios at least to my thinking that could have caused 9/11. Getting to the bottom of it is improbable if not impossible but we can and will continue to speculate with hopes of at least for our own minds coming to a conclusion.

1st scenario - The radical Islamists did this on their own as advertised in the MSM. The US government mostly looked the other way having knowledge of the pending attacks and used the aftermath as a reason to further a number of politcal agendas. And... as you mention if a number of FBI reported hijackers showed up alive, oops! They piled it on a little thick!

2nd scenario - The US government created this disaster, blamed the Islamists and furthered a number of political agendas. The radical Islamists, nearly as adept as the US government in turning lemons into lemonade, admitted it was they when blamed. They had failed once before, far be it from them to not take the martyrdom dumped in their laps. Thus furthering their agenda of a global Islamist state. That living hijackers showed up in the aftermath, why of course that would happen! They didn't do it.

3rd scenario - The US government having prior knowledge of the planned attacks, cut girders in the towers, ran a NORAD training session and more to insure the severity of devastation from the radical Islamist attacks. Thus furthering political agendas. And again extra hijackers, oops! Our bad!

None of these scenarios are pleasing to any of us but I think they are the possibilities within reason. I think it gets wittled down to these three scenarios all of which take into account the largely unexplained factual evidence or lack thereof. That includes scanty video from airport terminals, living hijackers, NORAD stand down, tower 7, Bushes' reaction and so much more. Just my unexpert opinion.

My point is you are not alone in thinking that this creep possibly had nothing to do with the attack and is just accepting the "mastermind" moniker because it enhances his Islamist standing. One might argue that Allah would look unkindly on a liar but his accepting the blame would further Allah's kingdom in the eyes of this zealot and others. And he would likely have wanted to cause this damage if he could have.

Don't have the time to read threw this thread, just wondering if anyone has made the connection of Obamas moving up the closing date, according to the delays in the release of the pandemic.
It sounds to me like he is saying, ya it will be closed, as soon as everyone is dead.

Asked if he understood why some people were offended by trying the men in U.S. courts, he replied: "I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him."

This is serious news for concern.
Judging by Obamals total lack of judgeement about everything and his track record for not coming through on his promises, something tells me the outcome will be totally different.

Something tells me KSM and the bunch will be found "Not Guilty".

Originally posted by Alxandro

Asked if he understood why some people were offended by trying the men in U.S. courts, he replied: "I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him."

This is serious news for concern.
Judging by Obamals total lack of judgeement about everything and his track record for not coming through on his promises, something tells me the outcome will be totally different.

Something tells me KSM and the bunch will be found "Not Guilty".

Originally posted by travisirius

Originally posted by Alxandro

This is serious news for concern.
Judging by Obamals total lack of judgeement about everything and his track record for not coming through on his promises, something tells me the outcome will be totally different.

Something tells me KSM and the bunch will be found "Not Guilty".

The fact that this guy has already bragged about being the mastermind of 9/11 to our military & will probably do it again in NY court there is all certainty (like Obama stated) he will be found guilty. "Obamals total lack of judgeement about everything" really? given 11 months & you declare his track record a failure? Nice judgement yourself. Who did you suport, Grandpa Munster for Pres?

Originally posted by travisirius
The fact that this guy has already bragged about being the mastermind of 9/11 to our military & will probably do it again in NY court there is all certainty (like Obama stated) he will be found guilty.

Let's hope so, but let's do one better, if he's willing to die for his cause, let's accommodate him now.
Why waste time effort and money even goiing to trial?

Nice judgement yourself. Who did you suport, Grandpa Munster for Pres?

Is Al Lewis still alive?
What's one thing Granpa Munster and Obama have in common?
...both are blood suckers.

Originally posted by Alxandro

Originally posted by travisirius

Let's hope so, but let's do one better, if he's willing to die for his cause, let's accommodate him now.
Why waste time effort and money even goiing to trial?

Because this is America no matter how hard the Bush's tried to turn into a Fasicst country. It costs more to carry out the death penalty than to exicute him. I say put him in a bathtub with a toaster after a legal trial.

Is Al Lewis still alive?
What's one thing Granpa Munster and Obama have in common?
...both are blood suckers.

McCain/Grandpa Munster, same thing. What makes Obama a blood sucker? If he's a blood sucker then Bush was Cthulhu.

Originally posted by Alxandro

Asked if he understood why some people were offended by trying the men in U.S. courts, he replied: "I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him."

Something tells me KSM and the bunch will be found "Not Guilty".

To say the constitutional rights against self-incrimination or police abuse of power don't apply to the guilty is the same as saying they don't apply to the innocent.