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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Then we can demolish yet another claim of the "truth" movement.
Originally posted by 911files
When the second plane hit, I did not need anyone to tell me it was a terrorist strike and that Bin Ladin was most likely behind it. Why? Because the M.O. was his. So no, "common sense suggests" it was OBL...
modus operandi: routine; an unvarying or habitual method or procedure
Osama was involved in the 911 attacks, he was the CIA puppet who would take the blame for it, and he knew it to and made a lot of money out of it.
Originally posted by Tartarspoon
Osama worked for the US till 9/11
(visit the link for the full news article)
In the interview, Sibel says that the US maintained 'intimate relations' with Bin Laden, and the Taliban, "all the way until that day of September 11."
These 'intimate relations' included using Bin Laden for 'operations' in Central Asia, including Xinjiang, China. These 'operations' involved using al Qaeda and the Taliban in the same manner "as we did during the Afghan and Soviet conflict," that is, fighting 'enemies' via proxies.
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
Its risky because KSM planned 9-11, not some idiot in DC or a puppet master as some of you you want us to belive, not everything is a conspaircy.
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
The twin towers fell because two planes were highjacked by Al-Quaida, who proceded to fly them into buildings.
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
I know some of you want to belive that the government is evil and out to get us, but lets really breathe here and think about this for a minute. If they were cabale of doing this, then we all would be dead already, they could mass produce a virus and unleash it on us all and give the cure to the ones they want to keep safe. They all could be chilling underground right sippin on some rum and coke while we all died.
Originally posted by Taxi-Driver
KSM confessed, on record, prior to being captured. So no torture was used to get him to confess to 9/11.
Originally posted by truthquest
The "mastermind" behind 9/11 may be going on trial soon. We need to get in contact with his lawyer and start planning the subpoenas! The lawyer is going to do nothing significant so its all on us to do the research.
Common sense suggests Osama Bin Ladin had nothing to do with the attacks and neither did this supposed "mastermind".
Let this be a thread to post suggestions for fellow researchers about how to go about doing this. Frankly I don't know how to try and contact this person's lawyer.... I doubt he has one yet even. Republicans call this "risky" for a good reason.
Or are you scared of the FBI, Swampfox? Or are you scared that they will tell you the same thing they told the Muckraker Report and your whole belief system about 9/11 will come tumbling down?
Are you saying that you KNEW IMMEDIATELY that it was Osama,
He was my first thought that day, based on his past history....and yes, someone flying a plane into a building was something I figured would happen at some point. It had been in enough books by then that someone would have thought about it.
Originally posted by Libertygal
I would think long and hard about aligning myself with someone like this, regardless of motives, because I doubt the government will find it humerous. Am I saying you should be intimidated? Yep. There are other ways to fry that fish!
There are no facts to support your opinions about OBL and if there were any truth to your assumptions that OBL did 911 then the FBI would have charged him.
Specification: In that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin'Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al Hawsawi, persons subject to trial by military commission as alien unlawful enemy combatants, did, at various locations, from in or about 1996 to in or about May 2003, conspire and agree with Usama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, Mohamed al Kahtani; Mohammed Atef(a/k/a Abu Hafs al Masri), 19 individuals who hijacked four commercial airliners on September 11,2001: (American Airlines Flight 11, hereinafter AA #11) Mohamed Atta, Satam al Suqami, Waleed al Shehri, Wail al Shehri, Abdul Aziz al Omari; (United Airlines Flight 175, hereinafter UA #175) Marwan al Shehhi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Ahmed al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri, Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad (hereinafter Fayez Banihammad); (United Airlines Flight 93, hereinafter UA #93) Ziad Samir Jarrah, Ahmad Ibrahim A. al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami, Saeed al Ghamdi; (American Airlines Flight 77, hereinafter AA #77) Hani Hanjour, Khalid al Mihdhar, Nawaf al Hazmi, Majed Moqed, Salem al Hazmi; and various other members and associates of the al Qaeda organization, known and unknown, and willfully join an enterprise of persons with the intent to further the unlawful purpose of the enterprise; to commit the following offenses triable by military commission: attacking civilians, attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, murder in violation of the law of war, destruction of property in violation of the law of war, and terrorism, said agreement and enterprise sharing a common criminal purpose, known to the five accused, to attack the United States, its people, and their property, said conspiracy resulting in the deaths of 2,973 persons. (See Charge Sheet Appendix A for a list of victims killed in the attacks).
Spanish judge charges Bin Laden
On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
The al-Qaeda terrorist network headed by Usama Bin Laden is clearly the most urgent threat to US interests. The evidence linking al-Qaeda to the attacks of September 11 is clear and irrefutable, and our investigation of the events leading up to 9/11 has given rise to important insights into terrorist tactics and tradecraft, which will prove invaluable as we work to prevent the next attack
In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly:
Originally posted by SPreston
posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by SPreston
A paper trail refers to documents of one form or another. It does not refer to phone calls or in person discussions.
Oh my. Swampfox is back. Attention 9-11 perps. Send more reinforcements, CameronFox and jthomas and Taxidriver and thedman and Swampfox can't handle it.
Oh, did I forget again? Osama had nothing to do with 9-11 just like he said, because Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the new official Super Duper Genius Mastermind and Master Demolition Specialist of 9-11.
So how did the FBI come up with these 19 alleged hijackers within minutes of the WTC attack out of the blue, if they couldn't track them with paper trails and phone calls and in person discussions?
Simple. Since the FBI failed to topple the towers in 1993, they decided to go with Plan B in 2001. Give 19 pretend hijackers stolen identities, have them lay a false trail of 19 persons intending a terrorist act, train them on US Military bases and in CIA safe houses, send them to flying school no matter how stupid and inept they appear to flight instructers, and presto blame them for 9-11. Hand the script over to the Mainstream News Media, instant patsies, and lo and behold the American sheeple will believe anything.
While here, the hijackers did all they could to stay below our radar. They contacted no known terrorist sympathizers. They committed no egregious crimes. They dressed and acted like Americans, shopping and eating at places like Wal-Mart and Pizza Hut, blending into the woodwork all the while. When four got speeding tickets in the days leading up to September 11th, they remained calm and aroused no suspicion. Since none were known terrorists, law enforcement had no reason to question or detain them.
The hijackers also left no paper trail. In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot. The hijackers had no computers, no laptops, no storage media of any kind. They used hundreds of different pay phones and cell phones, often with prepaid calling cards that are extremely difficult to trace. And they made sure that all the money sent to them to fund their attacks was wired in small amounts to avoid detection.
In short, the terrorists had managed to exploit loopholes and vulnerabilities in our systems, to stay out of sight, and to not let anyone know what they were up to beyond a very closed circle.
So you need to run back to headquarter Swampfox, and come up with a better disinfo campaign. Maybe they have somebody more devious to send in your place.