S&F here.

Great thread, a interesting read indeed.
I hope we're not alone.

I'm looking forward to disclosure, whenever that day comes.

I am also hoping for disclosure.

I really think the world needs a change right now, a whole new approach to things.

hopefully it will come soon.

I wish if they were real, that they would just wipe out the human race. We are vile uneducated cavemen that only destroy everything we come in contact with. We are ruthless and greedy. Let them end the experiment.

Interesting quotes.

Do these quotes come from reliable, in context sources? If so, this would be very good evidence.

I know that there are many people who endorse alien contact, however a lot of those quotes are out of context or never have been said at all.

If you have the sources you should put the up for all viewers of this thread to confirm on their own.

Ya’ll V Watchers? Well most all of us believe that there is something out there! I stopped watching shows on UFO’s because all they really are is repeats of what we already know. It does not matter how many Pilots you have lined up to tell what they saw, Radar reports of objects appearing and disappearing . “Miles” away video clips of some object in the sky. A million more of these types of sighting does not bring us any closer to disclosure. Its much of the same thing we’ve already heard and seen. “Yawn”

Opening new government files to some is a break through. Think about it, its not, its really more of what we already know, Just another story of the same thing.

Unless the Government comes forward with “fallen spaceships’ or other close up video footage and admit to ‘maybe’ have some dealings or contract with “Aliens” we never going to get much closer than what we are. Well not unless they Pull a V on us. But then if they look Human,(like the ‘V’s”) we not going to believe it anyway, we going to think its N.W.O pulling a stunt to get peace and unity. A lot of people already believe the Gov has this Technology, so it’ll be a tuff one to believe.

My concern is where will this disclosure lead us? A new level in our enslavement, or new heights to our freedom?

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
I wish if they were real, that they would just wipe out the human race. We are vile uneducated cavemen that only destroy everything we come in contact with. We are ruthless and greedy. Let them end the experiment.

So obviously you rather do nothing to change that, to make less greed, to aid in the advancement of the world beyond that level?!

Wouldn't an Alien threat from another planet make a great enemy for a united world government?

Citizens of the US are a helluva lot more compliant when we have an enemy.

You think that TPTB have thought of this? Cuz it makes a lot of sense.

I wonder if TPTB would ever stage a false event just to push through an unpopular social policy?

Seems like that thesis/antithesis/synthesis that is found in the Hegelian Dialectic.
Maybe I am just too paranoid.

It will take a ufo landing on the lawn of the white house. Its as simple as that. why would they disclose anything if they don't have to.

It will take a ufo landing on the lawn of the white house. Its as simple as that. why would they disclose anything if they don't have to.

It all points to yes!

What is the it? Was that it? What I saw posted here?

Prepare thyself...you are about to be bamboozled....again.

I'm amazed that educated people believe in this.

Sex, drugs and rock n' roll would be a healthier alternative.

Chalk up another one to the propaganda machine and the greedy men behind them.

I wish they would hurry up and disclose already, the wait is making me sick. Whats weird is, ive been having dreams about wierd alien-based stuff, like G-Men trying to find me, and its geting on my nerves. It makes me wonder, what are people gonna do once it IS disclosed and everyone's eyes are open? I predict that a lot of regular human attention-wh_res are going to run around screaming "IM AN ALIEN TOOOO! I've been here on a Mission! It feels so good not to hide anymore!" <-- Which is extremely annoying and embarrassing to EVERYONE. I also predict that a lot of people are going to get down on their knees in worship to the White blue-eyed blonde aliens (which is just stupid because IMO thats what they want according to the expirience ive had w/ them) and all the religios nuts, like Christian zealots, are going to go on a rampage and will take no prisoner.

Sure i want disclosure on an epic global scale, nomatter what the cost, but i fear there will be chaos from idiots. Vandalism, looting, desecration of truly sacred/holy sites, murder, rape, sacrifices, its gonna be a blood bath if this disclosure isnt given properly w/ appropriate details and explanations that everyone can fully understand. And it all depends on what Alien(s) come forward during disclosure. If its the bad ones, they they can claim all kinds of Sh_t, like that theyre the ONLY Other Aliens in the Universe (Thats would be peak-level on the BS meter, and it would also be shattering for everyone who knows better and cannot talk sense to anyone due to a 'mightier' force convincing the world's population... They could even create horrible laws, and bring a new age of brutality and darkness that the world has never known before. I may not be religous, or a fan of the Bible, bu dammit, there are SOME actually genuin predictions in there, and we need to start looking to them as a source of reference. EXAMPLE: "The Sun will become as black as night, and the moon will fill with blood" <-- Thats a metephor, and its EXACTLY What happens during a Complete Solar-Eclipse, the moon will turn red during the Eclipse of 12/21/12. I'd hate to be the bringer of bad news during such a hopeful time, but we ALL still need to be Cautious!

WHAT IF; The blonde blue-eyes come and say that Hitler was the Messiah and he was doing what they told him to do? And that they were his inspiration??? (I AM Just speaking Hypothetically to illustrate a point) But what then? What kind of panic and mass disorder would it cause? For those who are stupid enough and zealous enough to beleive that, there would be a worldwide holocaust. Remeber Revelations in the Bible. False Prophets, The Antichrist, the Whore of Babylon, and the Beast. Who are they? WHAT are they? Have you ever noticed the Similarities between Norse Mythology and Bible stories? Look up these names: Garm, Frenrir, Hel, Jormungand(The Midgard Serpent) and keep the Bible Prophecies inmind aswell as the Gods and prediction of all the worlds other cultures. They all resemble and reflect one another. Either mildly or strongly.

On the OTHERSIDE however, what if the Good kind come and are disclosed? What will happen then? What will the world be like from then on? Will recycling become manditory? Will solar/windpower become abundant? Will Protected, endangered and even extinct species be replentished? How will the atmoshere effect us once all the pollution is GONE??? Will cutting down living trees become illegal(God i hope so!) Where will all the criminals go?(Shot into the nearest blackhole hopefully) will disease end? What will happen? It would be fun to watch UFOs chasing drug dealers and prostitutes and then abducting them in a beam. I'd like to see all the lying-a$$ politicians thrown into a cess-pool and watch them promise to make changes in order to be rescued from swimming in EVERYONE ELSE'S sh!t for Once!

And just to recap, i just had to point out BOTH the Pros and Cons of any type of Disclosure.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
1952 Washington, D.C. flap: this series of UFO reports was accompanied by radar contacts at three separate airports. Country-wide headlines spurred the formation of the CIA Robertson Panel.
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UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, it does not mean "alien". It means it could be secret aircraft, experimental aircraft, and many other things that are not easily identifiable in the air. The example above has nothing to do with "aliens". That is your opinion.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
1957 Levelland case: police investigated numerous motorist reports of engines stalling when encountering a glowing, egg-shaped object. Motorists claimed that their vehicles had restarted after the "object" had left.
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Another UFO with no evidence of the UFO being "alien". It could be terrestrial. There is no reason to believe it is "alien".

Originally posted by Haydn_17
1976 Tehran incident: A UFO was believed to have disabled the electronic equipment of two F-4 interceptor aircraft as well as ground control equipment. The Iranian generals involved said on public record that they had thought the object was extraterrestrial.
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Why would they think it is extraterrestrial? That is their OPINION. Just because it is technology they have probably never seen, doesn't mean it is "alien". It STILL could be terrestrial.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
1986 São Paulo chase: around 20 UFOs were seen and detected by radar in various parts of Brazil. They reportedly disappeared as five military aircraft were sent to intercept them.
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Again, nobody saw who was in the UFO. Nobody saw where the UFOs came from. There is no legitimate reason to think they are "alien".

Originally posted by Haydn_17
1989/1990 Belgium wave: around 13,500 people claimed to have witnessed large, silent, low-flying black triangles. Around 2,600 filed written statements describing what they had seen. The frequently-photographed wave was tracked by NATO radar and jet interceptors and investigated by Belgium’s military.
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Again, no reason to believe they are "alien". Just another opinion. Could just be aircraft and tech. that is not widely known.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
2008 Turkey video: a night guard at the Yeni Kent Compound claimed he had videotaped multiple UFOs over a period of four months. Reported witness confirmations spurred claims by Sirius UFO Space Science Research Center it was the “most important images of a UFO ever filmed”.

Again.... nothing that points to "alien". You can not determine origin from a video, or just by looking because there is nothing to compare it to.

You can not say it is "alien". There is no reason to believe it is "alien", and it is your lack of knowledge that causes you to jump to conclusions.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"I've been asked about UFO's and I've said publicly I thought they were somebody else, some other civilization."
--Commander Eugene Cernan, Commanded the Apollo 17 Mission. (LA TIMES, 1973)

Opinion.....

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"We have contact with alien cultures."
--Astronaut Dr. Brian O'leary

Opinion....

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"In my official status, I cannot comment on ET contact. However, personally, I can assure you, we are not alone!
--Charles J. Camarda (Ph.D.) NASA Astronaut

Opinion..... However, I do believe it is a good opinion, and I agree with it, we are probably not alone in the universe, but on Earth? I think so. That is my opinion too.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"UFO sightings are now so common, the military doesn't have time to worry about them - so they screen them out. The major defense systems have UFO filters built into them, and when a UFO appears, they simply ignore it."
--Lee Katchen (former atmospheric physicist with NASA

UFO doesn't mean alien...

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."
--NASA's Scott Carpenter

UFO does not mean "alien". The word "surveillance" is his opinion as he doesn't have any reason to believe the UFO had eyes.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."
--Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,(NASA)

Opinion....

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"Of course it is possible that UFO's really do contain aliens as many people believe, and the Government is hushing it up."
--Professor Stephen Hawking

Yes of course it is possible (maybe), but is it true? Nobody has proof of that. This is his opinion too..

Originally posted by Haydn_17
"I'm not at liberty to discuss the governments knowledge of extraterrestrial UFO's at this time. I am still personally being briefed on the subject!"
--President Richard M. Nixon
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Again, nothing can be gained from that quote. The government could possibly know that they are NOT ET UFOs.

It's like saying "I'm not at liberty to discuss the governments knowledge of Santa Clause at this time. I am still personally being briefed on the subject".... That doesn't mean Santa Clause exists.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
Vatican prepares for extraterrestrial disclosure
November 12, 9:26 AM

The Vatican has just completed a five day conference astrobiology where scientists convened to discuss the detection and implications of extraterrestrial life.

The Vatican sponsored astrobiology conference was a landmark event. It showed that the Vatican was willing to officially sanction public discussions on the existence of extraterrestrial life.

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Extraterrestrial life probably exists. Most probably as micro sized organisms. INTELLIGENT extraterrestrial life capable of traveling distances of light years is probably VERY RARE, if not non-existent.

We still don't have any conclusive evidence that there is intelligent life.

ET life, and intelligent ET life are two different issues. We know life is abundant on Earth, but intelligent life capable of space flight is NOT abundant on Earth. Actually intelligent life capable of space flight is RARE on Earth, and so probably rare in the universe.


Your topic is a classic case of jumping to conclusions.

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For the record, I believe extraterrestrial life exist in other parts of the universe. I also believe intelligent life could be possible. However, I don't believe intelligent life could travel distances of light years because the knowledge and power needed to accomplish it. It could probably be possible, but there is still no conclusive proof, just speculation and opinion.





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