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Israel angers U.S. by approving new West Bank homes

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posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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Israel angers U.S. by approving new West Bank homes


www.reuters.com

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel triggered a fresh rift with Washington over settlement building on Tuesday by approving the building of 900 homes for Jews on West Bank land it occupied in a 1967 war and annexed to its Jerusalem municipality.
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posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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Few important highlights from the article:


The Israeli decision drew an usually sharply worded rebuke from the White House, which said it was "dismayed" and accused Israel of undermining Obama's efforts to resume peace talks with Palestinians stalled since December.



"At a time when we are working to relaunch negotiations, these actions make it more difficult for our efforts to succeed," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said.

In his statement, Gibbs also said the U.S. objected to continued evictions and demolitions of Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem.



Nabil Abu Rdaineh, aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said Israel's move "destroys the last chances for the peace process." Abbas has said peace talks stalled since December may resume only once Israel freezes settlement construction.



Israel rejects the international description of Gilo as a settlement and says it is a neighborhood of Jerusalem, the city it claims as its capital.

Some 500,000 Jews live in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, also captured in 1967, among 2.7 million Palestinians.

Israel annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 war, a move that was not recognized internationally. Palestinians want East Jerusalem to be the capital of a state they hope to establish in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.



Mark Regev, a spokesman for Netanyahu, had said in response to the newspaper report that "Prime Minister Netanyahu, in order to get the peace process back on track, is willing to adopt the policy of the greatest possible restraint concerning growth in the West Bank -- but this applies to the West Bank."

"Jerusalem is Israel's capital and will remain as such," he said, stating an Israeli position not recognized by world powers.



Britain's consulate-general in Jerusalem also condemned the Israeli move saying "this decision on Gilo is wrong and we oppose it."


Summary:
Israel approved building of 900 more homes on West Bank land it occupied in 1967 war which is not Internationally recognised. US, UK & Palestine have criticised this decision saying it' harms the peace process. Abbas said it's the final blow blow ending peace process.

Israel responded back by saying it strongly objects to halt the settlement plan. Israel also rejects the international description of Gilo as a settlement and says it is a neighborhood of Jerusalem, the city it claims as its capital.
Netanyahu Netanyahu, had said he is willing to adopt the policy of the greatest possible restraint concerning growth in the West Bank -- but this applies to the West Bank, whatever that means.

www.reuters.com
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[edit on 17-11-2009 by December_Rain]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:19 PM
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Should the US start bombing the illegal settlements?
What does it take to stop this outrage?



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:24 PM
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Well there is the crop of the story...

Israel will no longer be pushed around by the US or any other country, they will do as they see fit, in keeping with thier religion.

Now this is the way Isee this article, how is Obama going to repond to this? That is the question.


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posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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We here in the United States need to stop pussy footing around with the Israelis and write our congressional representatives to cut and eliminate all funding and aide to Israel until it complies with the U.N. and the accords it has signed and opens itself up for inspection of it’s nuclear facilities by the International Atomic Energy Agency
and grants the Palestinians full autonomy and statehood.

We need to let our representatives know it truly is no longer politically acceptable to finance and arm an apartheid state bent on genocide with American tax dollars.

We need to make it clear to them that any vote for Israeli Aide means loosing our vote in the next election.

There is plenty of available housing in Israel proper. This is just more politics of genocide, theft and attrition.

These are not the principals true Americans espouse and America should not be aiding, abetting or colluding with the Israeli criminal regime in any way shape or form any longer.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 06:36 PM
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You know that sounds like a good idea. Problem is, our representatives don't care what we think. I seem to remember people not wanting the bank bail out, but they did it anyway. our "Representatives" only do what is best for them.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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I don't think most people realize that since israel's conception, we've given them the same amount of OUR tax dollars, as we have to the rest of the WORLD!

Why is it these people need so much of our money?

Can't we better defend ourselves here with that money?

Why give them money for guns when they piss off their neighbors?



[edit on 17-11-2009 by breakingdradles]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Sigh, Israel..

I got some espresso grounds the other day, trying something different. Went to open it up and brew up a cappuccino and then I looked at the back of the package; It said "Product of Israel".

Oops.

Right in the trash can.

Pretty much my stance from now on regarding anything Israel says; right in the trash. I've never seen a country get away with so much snake in the grass politics, unlike America, which is more like a rampaging and insane bull.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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Thats great news. I can't wait until Israel controls the middle east from the Mediterranean to the Tigris and Euphrates as was prophesied of old. Israel should just say no to the terrorist sympathizer in the white house.

As for the province of Samaria, that has been Jewish land from ancient times. It's like saying the US can't build any new houses in California because the international community has decided it should be returned to mexico.

In fact the original UN mandate ceded Jordan and Israel to the Jews. The Palestinians can have Jordan. Oh I forgot, they caused so much trouble in Jordan that king Hussein slaughtered 30000 of them on black Friday.

What did the Jews do by comparison? Invite them on to their land and give them jobs. The Palestinians repaid them with missile barrages into their elementary schools.

It's amazing to me how many in the West willingly support the terrorists and the islamo-fascists. This truly is a spiritual blindness, sent by the devil who despises Israel. The devil hates Israel for one simple reason, it is absolute proof that the God of the Bible is real. It was prophesied in Isaiah and Amos that God would return the jews to israel, and it has been fulfilled.

Weep and gnash your teeth in futility, you will never destroy Israel though you desire to do so, deeply in your warped soul.

www.therefinersfire.org...


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posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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LOL

The current inhabitants of Israel could only dream they were the children of God, the chosen "victims" of the devil's attacks. .. lol

Children of God do not use white phosphorous on children and babies. Poor, poor Israel...



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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It's funny how the US scoffed at the UN when it invaded Iraq, and are still in Iraq, have invaded afghanistan, and are increasing troops around the world, yet make claims about how other countries are destroying the "peace process". It's freakin' laughable.
Also, if the US and Isreal are "in cahoots", why the sudden clash? Surely the bankers and puppeteers behind the scenes haven't changed. Does this prove that the president still has some authority over the actions of his country? I just remember when Bush was president the US and Isreal were treated as one and the same, and now people are talking about bombing Israeli settlements, which is also laughable.
Yeah let's suggest that we bomb settlements to make peace and then give it a bunch of stars.
Actually you know that explains a lot.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by heyo
It's funny how the US scoffed at the UN when it invaded Iraq, and are still in Iraq, have invaded afghanistan, and are increasing troops around the world, yet make claims about how other countries are destroying the "peace process". It's freakin' laughable.
Also, if the US and Isreal are "in cahoots", why the sudden clash? Surely the bankers and puppeteers behind the scenes haven't changed. Does this prove that the president still has some authority over the actions of his country? I just remember when Bush was president the US and Isreal were treated as one and the same, and now people are talking about bombing Israeli settlements, which is also laughable.
Yeah let's suggest that we bomb settlements to make peace and then give it a bunch of stars.
Actually you know that explains a lot.


Do you always get along with your friends and family?



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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No absolutely not. I'm fighting with my brother right now to tell you the truth.
That part of my post is me being absolutely confused, lost in the many conpsiracies we have available to get into.
Can we safely say the president isn't being controlled? Maybe a little offtopic?
The thing is this isn't a new issue, just a new reaction from obama, however hypocritical.
So with both Britain, and the STates taking this new stance against Isreal, does it show that popular opinion got it right, and our governments are listening or is there a new "banker" in town?



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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'Angers America' is a far stretch, I don't see America angry. If you think about Iraq and Afghanistan, or Cuba, or Syria, or Iran.. That is anger. When America is angry she does something about it, hence the trade ban against Cuba which is still implemented in the US. The push for isolation of Iran, that is anger. For any one to say the US is angry at Israel is a far stretch and needs something other then words to prove it.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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Yea and those outside can only dream until they see the Israeli tank gun pointing at them, forceing them to move, whom do not want to.

Israel nowadays no longer cares about world opinion, why you might ask.
They as a country no longer care with regards to the worlds countries having a moralle authority to dictaate to them what is right and what is wrong anymore.

They are doing what their diestiny, supposingly is being. And they do not care anymore whom they take out in the process.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by SyphonX
 


Yea and those outside can only dream until they see the Israeli tank gun pointing at them, forceing them to move, whom do not want to.

Israel nowadays no longer cares about world opinion, why you might ask.
They as a country no longer care with regards to the worlds countries having a moralle authority to dictaate to them what is right and what is wrong anymore.

They are doing what their diestiny, supposingly is being. And they do not care anymore whom they take out in the process.

They should care about the US because they owe them a lot, they would have been bombed like Iraq and Netenyahu would have been hanged like Saddam. Think a little more, it will help open your eyes.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by SyphonX
 


Yea and those outside can only dream until they see the Israeli tank gun pointing at them, forceing them to move, whom do not want to.

Israel nowadays no longer cares about world opinion, why you might ask.
They as a country no longer care with regards to the worlds countries having a moralle authority to dictaate to them what is right and what is wrong anymore.

They are doing what their diestiny, supposingly is being. And they do not care anymore whom they take out in the process.


This is not Israel’s destiny; it is simply a part they play, and a bit part at that in a Roman Staged Production that is at the core of these obscene and foolish prophecies.

They do not have to play that part. We do not have to accept this reality, or to accept that horrible notion of destiny of an apocalyptic struggle and war and so much death and carnage.

Why would we, why would any of us want to accept such a destiny or tolerate the very sources that have been manipulating these carefully orchestrated and highly manipulated religions whose only real purpose is to war incessantly with one another for the purpose of violently creating a one world government.

Religions destiny sucks, it’s all about making sure there is never a heaven like existence on earth by convincing people they must suffer and deprive themselves of so much in the here and now while greedy men get rich off the endless murder and theft to maybe, maybe if they are lucky have a better life in death than what we choose to wrought here on this one by turning a blind eye to the real suffering in the world and those people who are truly causing it.

The military industrialists, the bankers, the oil and gold barons, who are simply Rome’s elite in this obscene plan, it’s a rotten story, a stupid script and we absolutely do not have to go along with it.

We here in the United States need to stop letting Israel play this role and act out this part that is causing so much death and misery for nothing. NOTHING.

Write your congress people Americans and tell them to stop Israeli Aide or they loose your vote. Let an entire congress or two loose reelection for not listening. They will get the message.

We must no longer support genocide or ethnic cleansing. We must no longer support Zionist Israel.



posted on Nov, 18 2009 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
Thats great news. I can't wait until Israel controls the middle east from the Mediterranean to the Tigris and Euphrates as was prophesied of old. Israel should just say no to the terrorist sympathizer in the white house.

As for the province of Samaria, that has been Jewish land from ancient times. It's like saying the US can't build any new houses in California because the international community has decided it should be returned to mexico.

In fact the original UN mandate ceded Jordan and Israel to the Jews. The Palestinians can have Jordan. Oh I forgot, they caused so much trouble in Jordan that king Hussein slaughtered 30000 of them on black Friday.

What did the Jews do by comparison? Invite them on to their land and give them jobs. The Palestinians repaid them with missile barrages into their elementary schools.

It's amazing to me how many in the West willingly support the terrorists and the islamo-fascists. This truly is a spiritual blindness, sent by the devil who despises Israel. The devil hates Israel for one simple reason, it is absolute proof that the God of the Bible is real. It was prophesied in Isaiah and Amos that God would return the jews to israel, and it has been fulfilled.

Weep and gnash your teeth in futility, you will never destroy Israel though you desire to do so, deeply in your warped soul.

www.therefinersfire.org...





This is the most ill-informed lot of nonsense I have ever read on here! Israel offered land and jobs to the Palestinians who repaid them with missiles into schools? Are you in touch with reality at all?

Your glorification in the slaughter of 30,000 Palestinians says everthing!



posted on Nov, 18 2009 @ 05:00 AM
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People can write their politicians all that they want to, its not going to change anything.

In fact, so much of what I see on ATS is... well, its stuff thats not going to change.
...

Wasnt it Mossad that 'helped' with 9-11? Atleast someone important from Italy said so.

America will never take a harsh stance against Israel, WE ARE ISRAEL (in a sense). We give them billions of dollars every year, and that is never going to stop. Why? Because for around 70 years there has been an illegal occupation of Israel by a continuation of power. We give THAT power billions of dollars. Thus, America might as well be building the damn houses itself. Its just a political smoke and mirrors b/s stunt.

NOTING will EVER be done to Israel. EVER, EVER, EVER. Just like nothing will ever be done to the NWO.

someone mentioned bombing the settlements, well thats just American isnt it? (I'm a combat vet)



posted on Nov, 18 2009 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by breakingdradles
I don't think most people realize that since israel's conception, we've given them the same amount of OUR tax dollars, as we have to the rest of the WORLD!


Same amount is not correct.


Source:assets.opencrs.com...
See the chart, it shows a column for Immigration and Economic grant and a seperate column for millitary aid for all years when aid was given, or as a matter of fact the repeated aid "request" Israel has been doing which even the CRS Congressional report acknowledges:

Following Israel’s 2005 withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, Israeli officials reportedly have sought additional aid from the Bush Administration. Additional U.S. assistance could be used to fund development projects in the Negev desert and Galilee region. Israel reportedly suspended its initial aid request in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Although the Administration has not submitted a formal request for these new projects to Congress, there is some speculation that the proposed assistance package could range anywhere from $800 million to $1.5 billion.

Source: digital.library.unt.edu...:1

And this proves Israel is the major aid receiver by US

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. From 1976-2004, Israel was the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, having recently been supplanted by Iraq. Since 1985, the United States has provided nearly $3 billion in grants annually to Israel.

Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel’s receiving benefits that may not be available to other countries. For example, Israel can use U.S. military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military purchases from Israeli manufacturers.

In addition, all U.S. foreign assistance earmarked for Israel is delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year. Most other recipients normally receive their aid in staggered installments. The United States gives all Economic Support Funds (ESF) directly to the government of Israel as a cash transfer grant rather than allocating funds for specific development projects.

Source: digital.library.unt.edu...:1




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