reply to post by TheBorg
It appears that the conversation is starting to stray a little away from the topic.
The topic, by its very nature, will lead the discussion down various paths.
And, unfortunately, these paths all seem to be leading to one conclusion.
I fully and freely admit that I am in no way an expert on psychological problems. However, I consider myself relatively intelligent, able to make
sensible and evenhanded judgments based on data provided, and – believe it or not – am open minded.
What I am not
capable of doing is allowing information that is contradictory, heavily biased and downright aggressively unsubstantiated to
cloud my opinions.
Apart from the obvious troll posts, there are people on this thread who are staunchly, and to some eyes capably, defending not only their own beliefs,
but each and every counter argument. They don’t (well, rarely) depend on sci-fi rhetoric to support their claims, but argue their points with
relatively well thought out, well practiced
They are, quite obviously, adept at this type of thing and one gets the feeling that this is not the first time they have stood toe to toe with their
Can I point the finger of psychological disorder at them fairly? No, as I am no doctor. Can I do it for other reasons? Yes, and this is why;
Delusions are irrational beliefs, held with a high level of conviction, that are highly resistant to change even when the delusional person is
exposed to forms of proof that contradict the belief.
The grandiose subtype of delusional disorder involves the conviction of one's importance and uniqueness, and takes a variety of forms:
believing that one has a distinguished role, has some remarkable connections with important persons, or enjoys some extraordinary powers or
Sound familiar? Blaming psychological problems for outlandish claims might seem like a cheap – and unqualified - form of attack, but let’s take
the reasoning behind this further.
There is never any provable evidence, yet there is always an excuse why.
Some form of “Galactic Non Intervention/Interference Laws” are often quoted, yet the completely contradictory fact that these claimants for the
crown of resident alien are, by simply being on ATS, clearly breaching these “laws” is always ignored. There can be no
contact between species for various moral or contractual reasons, yet they can
happily produce copious amount of information about their
planets, history, governments, technology and agendas, abilities and missions to save (or doom) mankind, and various other , without worry or
Can anyone else see the problem? Talking openly about “alien-ness” is
interference; they are doing it on the internet, and on the world’s
biggest conspiracy site. Whilst this site may not have a major impact on the world’s psyche, thousands of people will still read their words,
perhaps talk about them to other like-minded folk, and spread those words. If these “aliens/guardians” are telling the truth about their origins,
then simply speaking of it appears to flaunt any cultural, psychological or moral consequence their own laws seek to prevent.
(Also, surely declaring their origins on a board dedicated to the interest in and study of exobiological existence is preaching to the converted, or
is that actually the rationale
? Why try and convince quantum physicists or cultural leaders and show yourself up to be sorely lacking in the
skills you believe you have when you can easily gain an attentive, unquestioning and adoring audience amongst the “fringe”.)
Evidence is never forthcoming because – for the “alien” - it doesn’t have to exist. Their word should be sufficient. But it never is, and any
real alien who truly wishes to engage us in serious discourse will know
that we, as a discerning and perceptive species, demand
Words can be hollow, proof is solid. But to the deluded, under the insistence of their own rationale, words alone are
adequate. And how dare
Advanced beings – sent here to observe/guide/teach – are as, or even more, fallible as any ordinary human
Ghandi. Martin Luther King. Einstein. The list of great Human beings is endless.
They all changed the world for good in one way or another. They were all flawed, yet they had that indefinable spark of greatness and true and
. They could convey complex or morally difficult concepts with delicious and consummate ease. Their words linger in our
minds long after they have gone on.
Yet, what do we get from representatives of advanced
extraterrestrial species, species who openly declare, through these representatives, that
they are superior in mind and spirit?
Poor communicators, that’s what.
When a nation here on Earth
sends humanitarian or military aid to ailing countries, they ensure that within their retinue of experts they have
specifically trained people who not only speak the native languages fluently, but who are eminently capable of understanding national or religious
customs and who can advise on how not to offend. This is incredibly important. Why try and antagonize through ignorance or arrogance a people you are
attempting to help? Wouldn’t the help take on a bitter taste – or even be questioned as to its reasoning - if that were the case?
Why would that basic requirement not
apply to emissaries of higher beings here on Earth?
Well, the answer – hopefully – is that for us to be able to form a relationship with real aliens in what would be the dawn of a new and unknown
era of communication and interaction with our interstellar neighbours, it would have to
But to a self-appointed
spokesperson – one who is full of well meaning, yet who is labouring under an ingrained misunderstanding of their own
feelings of disassociation – those requirements don’t apply. Why should they? They’re special
The “aliens” on this thread are
They exist because they justify their reasoning, even if it’s obviously skewed. They exist because they substantiate their “evidence”, even when
it is destroyed publically.
They exist because, even in the face of continued skepticism, no counter argument can damage their resolve, or change their mind.
They exist in the minds of those who need them to exist
in a world they cannot face without.