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Topic started on 17-11-2009 @ 12:19 PM by SLAYER69
OK here we go...

When our Allies are embarrassed then you know there is something afoot. It's one thing to show cultural respect but too much Kowtowing makes one look weak. One could only imagine the type of groveling that went on behind closed doors in Beijing.

Some Say Obama makes Carter look like a tiger.


Japanese Mortified By Obama's Bow
ABC's Jake Tapper reports that at least one Japanese newspaper is not printing the picture of the president's mortifying bow because the Japanese are embarrassed by his behavior. A scholar of traditional Japan tells Mr. Tapper, "The bow… did not just display weakness in Red State terms, but evoked weakness in Japanese terms… The last thing the Japanese want or need is a weak-looking American president."

Wasn't this president elected to restore our alliances and repair our images abroad? Now he's embarrassed the U.S. and one of our allies all at the same time. That takes real effort.


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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 12:25 PM by Wormwood Squirm
reply to post by SLAYER69


Fox News will beat the crap out of Obama every chance they get. This is blown out of proportion IMO. The article you link has a terrible title and then quickly changes subject to Obama's health plan. I don't buy it.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 12:29 PM by SLAYER69
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OK here is another source.
SPIN METER: Did Obama grovel?
WASHINGTON — Some conservative commentators seized on President Barack Obama's deep bow to Japan's Emperor Akihito over the weekend, accusing the U.S. commander in chief of groveling before a foreign leader.

So did he?

While it may have been an awkward moment, it wasn't without precedent. And it appeared to be well within protocol guidelines that the State Department issues for foreign service officers working in other countries.

U.S. presidents from both political parties have often been criticized for their attempts at culturally sensitive greetings to high-ranking foreigners.




reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 12:39 PM by SLAYER69
Obama bows to Japanese Emperor, and even the Japanese are embarrassed
Good grief.

Want a sense of just how jarring it was for Obama to prostrate himself before the Japanese emperor?

Well, even the Japanese are mortified and trying to minimize the embarrassment to the American Presidency.

According to ABC News, the Kyodo News – Japan’s equivalent of the Associated Press – has declined to publish and propagate the really embarrassing photo of the President of the United States bowing before Emperor Akihito and instead will use a photo of the less humiliating nod-and-shake Obama offered to the Empress.



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 12:41 PM by jibeho
Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
reply to
post by SLAYER69


Fox News will beat the crap out of Obama every chance they get. This is blown out of proportion IMO. The article you link has a terrible title and then quickly changes subject to Obama's health plan. I don't buy it.


Uh... The OP quoted Jake Tapper from ABC.
I think you suffer from Fox Derangement Syndrome.

Back to the topic of the long awaited response from the Japanese. Clearly, Obama is being handled by rookies in the Protocol department.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 12:48 PM by cindymars
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So Slayer, what is it you believe about this situation.

Is this really relevant news?



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 12:56 PM by jibeho
reply to post by buddhasystem



I am all for respecting the culture of a host nation. However, Obama's bow went far beyond the typical greeting in Japanese culture. This is why he is being criticized from both sides of the Pacific.

Comparing a yarmulke to a bow doesn't really jive. Imagine the shock if the Emperor gave Obama the traditional urban handshake or bumped his knuckles.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:09 PM by MrDesolate
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Star for you. And not just Obama, but virtually every politician will have a significant percentage of slaggers no matter what they do, just by virtue of it being a contentious game.

I doubt all Japanese were "mortified". Some were, some weren't. Had he dropped the Emperor with a forearm shiver then tapped him out with a rear naked choke, some would have been mortified, some would have thought it was a sign of strength.

Wait'll he shares kitten kebabs with Kim Jong-Il, then we'll have a story.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:13 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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I know we went over this when the President bow to a Saudi King, he needs to fire his Protocal team. No US President needs to bow to anyone. A


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:14 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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Look he bowdown to the Jap Emperor, He should not have done this, If he doesnt want his enemies throwing mud on him, then he shouldnt do crap like this.



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:22 PM by SLAYER69
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Well this isn't the first time he has prostrated himself.


In many Asian cultures bowing is very important no doubt. However a mutual bow shows respect, one that is very deep as what Obama has done signifies being submissive, inferior or less than.


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