I had a thought pop into my head.

How many people who died from actual swine flu had already had previous flu shots over the years.? Have any died that never had a flu shot, ever?

Is it possible that our previous flu-shot usage could have made us more susceptible to this one? Given that we have a buildup of mercury/squalene/nsert product I can't pronounce here>, over the years?

Just thinkin'...

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Well at least we are on the ball. I had to get my son the Vaccine since he has a form of Immune Dificiency which makes him ridiculously susceptible to the complications.

Vaccines and anti-biotics make your Immunce system even weaker.
give him ginger and tumeric powder in foods

That's odd, most of the people I know aren't getting the vaccine
20% is alot

Big deal, 95% of flu cases around my area in northern BC is H1N1. I had it myself back in August when I was close to the US border and really, I've had worse hangovers when I was in my early teens. The only crappy part is coughing up stuff from your lungs for a month.

Honestly, if you are weak enough that you think you are going to die from a flu, then maybe you should take this vaccine. OR you can be a sensible person, take the flu like a man and your body will immunize itself without stupid mass vaccinations. I guess not all of us are raised to be tough and independent though.

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Honestly, if you are weak enough that you think you are going to die from a flu, then maybe you should take this vaccine. OR you can be a sensible person, take the flu like a man and your body will immunize itself without stupid mass vaccinations. I guess not all of us are raised to be tough and independent though.

See, I don't need to worry about any rationale about being weak offered up by 'some guy on the net'. I have two doctors I see regularly. I trust them with my life...and that of my loved ones. Both recommend the vaccine, so we got it.

That's why I have good doctors...so they can offer me informed advice and I don't have to consult 'some guy on the net'.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
See, I don't need to worry about any rationale about being weak offered up by 'some guy on the net'. I have two doctors I see regularly. I trust them with my life...and that of my loved ones. Both recommend the vaccine, so we got it.

That's why I have good doctors...so they can offer me informed advice and I don't have to consult 'some guy on the net'.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

I never asked you to consult with someone over the net. I am just saying that this flu is just a flu, and it will only make you weaker if you need to depend on vaccines to get through. There's a reason why you have an immune system, and when you start getting vaccinated then you better not stop getting them for your whole life because your body will become dependent.

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
I am just saying that this flu is just a flu, and it will only make you weaker if you need to depend on vaccines to get through. There's a reason why you have an immune system, and when you start getting vaccinated then you better not stop getting them for your whole life because your body will become dependent.

Well, I know that pesky smallpox keeps on hitting me every season...

That would be another failed vaccine, right? It's because we got those shots that you don't have to.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Well, I know that pesky smallpox keeps on hitting me every season...

That would be another failed vaccine, right? It's because we got those shots that you don't have to.

C'mon dude, we Canadians gotta stick together on here. I'm not trying to be ignorant, just pointing out that this is just a flu that would be best taken care of head on.

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Well, I know that pesky smallpox keeps on hitting me every season...

That would be another failed vaccine, right? It's because we got those shots that you don't have to.

C'mon dude, we Canadians gotta stick together on here. I'm not trying to be ignorant, just pointing out that this is just a flu that would be best taken care of head on.

My doctors tell me that the way to do it is to get the shot, so I did. I'll show my Canadian solidarity by advising you to as well...but hey...I'm just some guy on the net...

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Well, I know that pesky smallpox keeps on hitting me every season...

That would be another failed vaccine, right? It's because we got those shots that you don't have to.

C'mon dude, we Canadians gotta stick together on here. I'm not trying to be ignorant, just pointing out that this is just a flu that would be best taken care of head on.

My doctors tell me that the way to do it is to get the shot, so I did. I'll show my Canadian solidarity by advising you to as well...but hey...I'm just some guy on the net...

i truly believe that your doctors care very much for you and recommended the shot because they believe wholeheartedly that it will be beneficial to you. the problem that i personally have with this...is that the information most doctors have is from the pharma companies and gov, right? and those people are going to tell you whatever they want to get you to take their vaccine so they can make money...i just dont trust it all...i trust my doctor 100%. I just dont trust all this fantastic information he's been given about the vaccine. thats why i do not plan to get vaccinated and im encouraging other people to think very carefully before they do. im not trying to tell people not to get it...just to really weigh the pros and cons of being vaccinated and to do their own research prior to being jabbed.

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
Of course they're loons, in the grand scheme of things, they get people killed, that's not cool. Herd immunity, not having small pox or worrying about polio, that's cool.

I'll make one concession, if you're not getting the H1N1 shot because you feel it's been somewhat rushed to market, that's understandable.

But if you're not getting it because you believe it's going to make you retarded, give you cancer, sterilize you or anything like that, you're a loon, sorry.

This is obviously your opinion because if you had spent any decent number of hours actually studying vaccinations in general, not just h1n1, you would learn that the effectiveness of vaccines is a joke.

Did you know the only recorded cases of someone contracting small poxx twice happend to be with people who were vaccinated.

Did you know that the Amish and doctors(and their families) are the most un-vaccinated segment of north american society. They both also show the lowest rates of contraction during epidemics.

Every major epidemic that has been been kept on record has shown a decrease in cases before the vaccines were even administered. In other words the "herd" developed immunity before they gave the vaccine.

Personally I think you are the loon for just accepting the gov's word that its necessary. Also, we who will not have this junk pumped into our blood are not affraid of becoming brain damaged, we are afraid of having brain damaged children.

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus

This is obviously your opinion because if you had spent any decent number of hours actually studying vaccinations in general, not just h1n1, you would learn that the effectiveness of vaccines is a joke.

Did you know the only recorded cases of someone contracting small poxx twice happend to be with people who were vaccinated.

Did you know that the Amish and doctors(and their families) are the most un-vaccinated segment of north american society. They both also show the lowest rates of contraction during epidemics.

Every major epidemic that has been been kept on record has shown a decrease in cases before the vaccines were even administered. In other words the "herd" developed immunity before they gave the vaccine.

Personally I think you are the loon for just accepting the gov's word that its necessary. Also, we who will not have this junk pumped into our blood are not affraid of becoming brain damaged, we are afraid of having brain damaged children.

There we go - another "loon" as looney as myself.

But look, we don't blame people and the vast majority of the population for subscribing to the well established vaccine fraud. Because as everyone knows, when you enter the medical profession, you and only you knows what's going on with regards to how the human body works. And if you haven't, then you better zip it until we have an actual doctor in the house RIGHT?!

We don't blame people like CrazyCanuck and members of our own family who have had radioactive "seeds" implanted into their prostate to "battle" cancer - especially when expert after expert has recommended the same procedure.

We don't even blame the pathetic oncologist's who've been bred in many years of brainwash school (med school) to literally harm versus help those that need guidance and help the most.

Nope, we blame what went on in the late 1800's in England when the BMA (British Medical Association) ravaged and imprisoned all those who wouldn't bow down to their iron fist rule of monopolized medicine law which then quickly spread to the US in the early 1900's as the AMA.

The poison patrol got their roots in early so to the point that we here now, beg to be given their expertly derived serums and formulas.

Polio and smallpox and bears oh my! Look, we all know those diseases raped the landscape but so did famine, malnutrition and deplorable hygiene. Coincidence? Not at all, it's the same reason so many people are chronically ill these days - malnutrition is back with a vengeance and our immune systems are being taken down notch by notch. Our food is pathetic, I see it everyday in people's shopping carts. It's as though it's "perfectly fine to live on frozen dinners and pop and Chunky soup."

If you really wanna learn about real history stop hitting industry written garbage textbooks and learn about the real Louis Pasteur and Joseph Salk. Better yet, learn about how the BMA and AMA was established, by who and what went on during that time.

Read a few independent books on the history of the medical establishment. It didn't just grow out of the "hearts of caring men for the betterment of civilization". It's pretty well, and especially at this point, the exact opposite.

Sorry for the bad news, but hey, at least your conditioning won't let you believe even a word of this. So at least that's something eh?

Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
i trust my doctor 100%. I just dont trust all this fantastic information he's been given about the vaccine. thats why i do not plan to get vaccinated and im encouraging other people to think very carefully before they do. im not trying to tell people not to get it...just to really weigh the pros and cons of being vaccinated and to do their own research prior to being jabbed.

The way I see it, my doctor has access to more information than I do, and he weighs it carefully and draws his educated conclusions accordingly. And if he feels his data is suspect, he will investigate the issue himself. He's the pro and I trust him.

And that's why he doesn't tell me how to run my printing press.

Since my Wife and I have both had it we won't be getting the vaccine, neither will my kids. We are all in good health and shouldn't have to worry...