Clas Svahn Interview ~ UFOs in Sweden, page 1
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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 06:01 AM by karl 12
Swedish UFO Files:


UFO Sweden releases 18,000 Swedish UFO reports to the public domain.

A Swedish UFO-organisation will make it easier for the public to look through their files. A 250 square meter archive will open its doors to the public during the weekend of May 9-10 2009. It is located in Norrköping and contains approx. 18000 files from Sweden and several thousand documents related to Denmark, Norway and the US. Clas Svahn from "UFO-Sweden" has allegedly stated that the reason why the documents have not been shown before is due to the lack of personnel. But now the organisation has hired a part-time employee. Clas Svahn has highlighted a case where a couple saw a cigar-shaped object land and sink in a lake in 1980 in Norrbotten. The incident was apparently reported to the Swedish military.


"Besides the 18,000 Swedish cases are thousands of cases from Denmark and other Nordic countries. Thousands of US cases on micro film are too included. The archive (Norrkoping) will be open to the public domain starting with May 9-10, 2009.

The chairman of UFO Sweden Clas Svahn mentions one case of special interest, a case from 1980. A cigar shaped UFO submerged itself into a mountain lake and never came up again according to witnesses. Svahn comments, "it may still be there, since the lake never been monitored by divers."



"There was a great interest," said Clas Svahn at UFO Sweden.

A Swedish pilot in a Draken plane was flying over Småland in a training exercise in the 1970s. He received the order to break the exercise and fly towards an unidentified object lying still on the water.

As he approached the object suddenly shoots straight up - and the pilot takes up the chase.
Despite full speed the pilot soon loses the object and it is never identified.

The event which confounded the pilot, is just one of the reports recorded in the world's largest UFO archive in Norrköping in eastern Sweden.

www.thelocal.se...
www.exopolitics.dk...
www.examiner.com...




Claus Svahn dicussing UFO sighting in Sweden:




Main Link:
Archives for UFO Research ~ founded in Sweden in 1973


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 06:29 AM by Zelong
Sweden is supposed to have the world's largest UFO archive, with over 18,000 Swedish reports, pictures and foreign reports!

But the problem with
UFO Sweden is no one does anything,not one of them have the time to digitize these documents and pictures Welcome to AFU

The Local
The archive is now closed once more, as the association works on a voluntary basis and does not have the time to do more than show the archive to, for example, researchers.


Sweden's got Billy Meier but no digital UFO archive


Zelong.



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 06:48 AM by Saribous
reply to post by karl 12



If anyone is wondering what he is talking about in that youtube video, he talks about what the two objects seen in the clip may be. He mentions that they can not be reflections because they move independent of one another, and that he has ruled out both birds and insects. He then states that the clip is special because it's shot in broad daylight.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 09:37 AM by karl 12
Originally posted by Drexon
The theory so far is that the former USSR was testing some long distance missiles on swedish lakes.


Well, that certainly is a theory - Richard M Dolan's (excellent) book 'UFOs and the National Security State' goes into quite some detail about the ghost rocket phenomenon:


While the Swedes,Norweigans and Danes investigated and clamped down ,Britain and America provided some assistance. On August 23rd,British radar experts,back from Sweden, submitted secret reports to the British Government on the origin of the rockets.

Their conclusion: the objects were not of Soviet origin.

The scientific advisor to MI6, Prof R.V. Jones found it doubtful that "the Russians were supposedly cruising their flying bombs at more than twice the range that the Germans had acheived".

On September 9th the British Air Ministry's Directorate of Intelligence (Research) summarized the main features of the ghost rocket phenomenon and included eight types of sightings.

Link





Its also interesting that,as well as Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark, ghost rocket reports were also coming in from Portugal, France, Tangiers, Italy, Belgium, Greece and India and witnesses numbered in their tens of thousands -many described luminous cigar type objects which gave off no vapour trail and were completely silent - the objects were reported to be seen in formation, breaking formation, manoeuvering and hovering.


Famous Greek physicist Dr. Paul Santorini (the developer of the proximity fuze on the first A-bomb) also investigated the phenomenon for the Greek Government and makes some interesting comments about the objects not being missiles:



Dr. Paul Santorini, on UFOs over Greece in 1946.

]In a 1967 lecture to the Greek Astronomical Society, broadcast on Athens Radio, he first publicly revealed what had been found in his 1947 investigation. "We soon established that they were not missiles. But, before we could do any more, the Army, after conferring with foreign officials (U.S. Defense Dept.), ordered the investigation stopped. Foreign scientists (from Washington) flew to Greece for secret talks with me." Later Santorini told UFO researchers such as Raymond Fowler that secrecy was invoked because officials were afraid to admit of a superior technology against which we have "no possibility of defense."

Link


Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]



reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 02:00 PM by karl 12
More on the Swedish Ghost Rockets:

Many sightings were of elongated, cigar-shaped, objects. On May 24, 1946 at 2 a.m., for example, several Swedish witnesses saw a wingless cigar shaped object, a scant 300 feet above the ground, spurting "bunches of sparks" from its tail. The object moved at the speed of an ordinary airplane. On the 31st, just before noon, a wingless huge metallic cigar was seen moving rapidly at about 1,000 feet altitude. From these kinds of descriptions, the objects acquired the name of "ghost rockets." It soon became clear, however, that these could not be conventional rockets. In the first place, they left no exhaust trail. Secondly, they were almost always silent. Thirdly, many of them moved too slowly to be rockets. Fourthly, they were often seen in formation, breaking formation, maneuvering, or hovering. Finally, the longest trajectory recorded by observers was 1,000 kilometers: this was three times the range of the German V rockets. Strange rockets, for sure.

Still, the Swedes, Americans, British, and other interested parties (which included just about everybody) looked into the possibility that these were Soviet missiles of some sort, constructed with the help of their cache of German scientists from Peenemunde, the home of the V rockets. Many investigators realized even at the time that this was so unlikely as to be nearly impossible. Still, few could rule it out completely. To this day, however, there is no evidence whatsoever that the objects were of Soviet origin.

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reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 08:04 AM by karl 12
More reading on the Swedish Ghost rockets taken from the Rockefeller Briefing Document

Incident:

On 14, August,1946 at 10 a.m. a Swedish Air Force pilot was flying at 650 feet over central Sweden when he saw a dark, cigar-shaped object about 50 feet above and approximately 6,500 feet away from him travelling at an estimated 400 mph. The missile had no visible wings, rudder or other projecting part; and there was no indication of any fuel exhaust (flame or light), as had been reported in the majority of other sightings.

"The missile was maintaining a constant altitude over the ground and, consequently, was following the large features of the terrain. This statement casts doubt on the reliability of the entire report because a missile, without wings, is unable to maintain a constant altitude over hilly terrain.



Statement:

"I would like to say that everyone on the committee, as well as the chairman himself, was sure that the observed phenomena didn't originate from the Soviet Union. Nothing pointed to that solution.
On the other hand, if the observations are correct, many details suggest that it was some kind of a cruise missile that was fired on Sweden. But nobody had that kind of sophisticated technology in 1946."
Air Engineer Eric Malmberg - Secretary of Sweden's Defence Staff committee

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



reply posted on 26-2-2010 @ 11:26 AM by karl 12
More on Swedish UFO reports.



UFOs over Sweden

In May 1954, Mutual news commentator Frank Edwards (now a NICAP Board Member) reported an item from Stockholm:

"Swedish military authorities sent special crews into north Sweden where scores of residents have reported strange glowing objects maneuvering over forests at low altitude during the week of May 10... Military men who have seen the things say they were not planes of any type."

After the crew of a Swedish airliner reported a wingless circular UFO over southern Sweden December 17, 1953, the defense department ordered a full scale investigation. Capt. Ulf Christiernsson, former RAF pilot, said: "It was an entirely unorthodox, metallic, symmetrical and circular object." The UFO was seen speeding over the town of Haessleholm in the main commercial air lane between Stockholm and Copenhagen.

In 1961 Mr. Sven Schalin, aeronautical engineer in Linkoping, became NICAP Adviser for Sweden. In his acceptance letter, Mr. Schalin stated: "UFOs very definitely have been sighted also in this country. A 'flap' seemed to occur around January 1959, the whole period starting perhaps in July 1958 and ending about June 1959. Obviously the Swedish Intelligence Center in Stockholm knows what is going on but the usual debunking policy is strictly followed."


During
Operation Mainbrace, extensive naval maneuvers in the North Sea on and about September 20, 1952, UFOs were sighted in the vicinity on several occasions. On the 20th, a silvery disc of metallic appearance was observed passing swiftly over the Allied fleet. Wallace Litwin, an American newsman onboard the aircraft carrier "Franklin Roosevelt," took three color photographs of the UFO. As far as is known, the pictures have never been published and no explanation of the incident was offered.

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reply posted on 14-1-2011 @ 01:25 AM by karl 12
Originally posted by karl 12
The world's largest UFO archive - Norrköping, Sweden:


Does anybody speak Swedish?





Interview transcript - (kindly translated by Oderint)
:


The archive is 220 sq.meters, has around 11000 books, tens of thousands of journals, 18000 reports, newspaper clippings, tapes and videos.


Q: How come the worlds largest archive is here in Norrköping?

A: That's because there are so many idealists who have decided to build a giant archive. We work towards giving the world as a whole good information.
Guy number two: We're kind of in between the total skeptics and the naive believers. We talk about the third way of ufology where we thoroughly investigate and research this phenomena.

Reporter:
Claus thinks the interest around UFO's is big, but there are still many who don't dare to step forward and talk about things they've seen.
Claus: I think it's a little bit stigmatized still, a little shameful maybe to talk about things you might not understand yourself.

Reporter:
The archive of ufology was started in '73 and is run entirely on a volunteer basis.
She goes on to say over a hundred people have worked on it via some programs by government...stuff, I guess Sorry, I'm not Swedish so some things are hard to translate, but this doesn't sound too important anyway.

Woman at desk:
I'm registering a magazine called "UFO magasinet" (The UFO magazine) from USA. I've become even more interested and read a lot about these phenomena right now.

Reporter:
How many people do you think you will continue to give work to?
A: That depends on time and money, of course. We could have 20 full time employees here if we had the funds. There is so much to do.

Reporter:
Within a year, all the reports, all 18000, will be on a free database online

Claus:
It will result in us finding more answers, but there will always be a small percentage we will not find the answers to.
Reporter:
Can you be happy with that?
Claus:
No, I always want to find the answers.

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