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Why Is The Vatican So Interested In Extra Terrestrial Life ?

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posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:12 AM
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Now going back to the whole religion thing mixed with the Vatican. So as most of you know how Christianity works then the view on Christianity would change rather than be destroyed. For the reasoning that Jesus did in fact exist. Now to understand who Jesus is and who he was and how he knew what he did would just boggle your mind. Its far into actual religion rather than the misconceived notions of what religion actually is. Personally what life is and why it is would be a basic to minimal understanding of what the E.B.E.'s would know. Most of this knowledge would just make people go crazy and maybe not want to live anymore. Also I remember a while ago a guy trying to communicate to us from the future was in fact true. Also I don't have the whole constructed view how everything works because of some other stuff you wouldn't understand. I have yet to hear from anyone which is really shocking to the fact that if you want to change then why not know what actually is true.




posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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I'm starting to believe a significant announcement will be made - not similar to the reports of Aliens being displayed on TV.

The British government UFO policy is now listed towards "open minded" instead of denial of existence or the possibility to alien life.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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Seems to me like they are holding summits and discussions because they now realize now, as should everyone else, that there is no question to the existence of extraterrestrial life. They are simply finding the best way to keep religion apart of life when people finally realize the truth. This revelation to them could be viewed as when they finally accepted that the earth revolved around the sun, minus all the prosecution of scientists.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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The Vatican is corrupt and will assist the Anti-Christ in deceiving the masses. So of course they will be looking for ET life. The fallen angels and Nephilim are what those things REALLY are. They will say aliens are our brothers and the aliens will explain that us "primitive" unenlightened humans are misinterpreting every religion and will teach us the path to "enlightenment." In other words Satanism and the New World Order. How else would there be a one world government and one world ruler without a reason such as ET landings? Put the puzzle together and it fits. Fallen angels and the NWO. Ever heard of Atlantis. You think that's just a myth? Or was it a fallen angel habitation? Think.

So when Maitreya has his "Day of Declaration" around the end of 2012, expect these guys to land and the Vatican to promote them as gods.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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The Vatican is probably interested in ET Life because IF there is undenaiable proof of ET existence they need to re-position and re-profile their entire organization.

They have to think about the question 'How to explain ET life and how to fit it in their Believe system'.

Makes one wondering WHAT actually is TRUE of the Chistian Religion .......

It's a bit silly to sell the idea that Jesus did die for all people's sin, if there are more intelligent lifeforms then the ones we know on Earth. And that's exactly why I always had problems being a true Christian, I'm unable to believe that story. I do believe in a 'God-like' Energy though ......



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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@ everyone: thanks for all the excellent replies , i appreciate all the comments and look forward to more discussions about this.








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why would they (the Vatican) have to completely revamp the entire organization when they have already accepted the idea ? will some proof change all that ? perhaps they would have to have an official position because the Aliens have a different (or the same viewpoint) about God but that's the only reason i see right now for the Vatican to have to change anything.


and why is it so silly to believe Jesus died for our sins ? because some Alien creature from somewhere else is found ? i don't understand the logic in that. we humans have a eternal soul and we don't know if some creature from another planet or existence does.

i can't prove it but i had a close encounter experience back in the mid eighties and i know for a fact that we are being visited by some intelligent life. that experience i had did not in any way shape or form change my faith. for everyone else, i don't see why confirmation or contact with any other intelligent life will force any Christian to change their beliefs that Jesus is the Son of God and died to save us from a eternal suffering. just my opinion thanks for the reply.





[edit on 17-11-2009 by easynow]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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The Vatican's chief astronomer says there is no conflict between believing in God and in the possibility of "extraterrestrial brothers" perhaps more evolved than humans.

"In my opinion this possibility (of life on other planets) exists," said Reverend Jose Gabriel Funes, a 45-year-old Jesuit priest who is head of the Vatican Observatory and a scientific adviser to Pope Benedict.

"How can we exclude that life has developed elsewhere," he told the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano in an interview in its Tuesday-Wednesday edition, explaining that the large number of galaxies with their own planets made this possible.

Asked if he was referring to beings similar to humans or even more evolved than humans, he said: "Certainly, in a universe this big you can't exclude this hypothesis."

In the interview, headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," he said he saw no conflict between belief in such beings and faith in God.

"Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on Earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom," he said. "Why can't we speak of a 'brother extraterrestrial'? It would still be part of creation," he said.


www.newscientist.com...



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Good point!

If they were the ones to make first disclosed contact, they truly would be the most powerful organization in the world, with friends in high places ( literally )



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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My Position: Do the opposite of whatever the Vatican says.

I believe there are lots of corrupted Vatican officials, and the Vatican should have been shut down long ago, the wealth should have been distributed back to the people.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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New Converts. A whole Universe to tend and minister and witness too.

Their mandate just got a whole lot bigger.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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You are probably seeing the foundations of a new religion - which will mix the Islamic idea of God being the Lord of the universe. But, however, we will need a new prophet (cannot really interpret two religions to create a new version)



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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If the Vatican can get people to take the ufos seriously then this could be Christianity on the up again. In the UK people have more or less given up on the idea of something greater than humanity, those who do go to church do say to socialise and out of tradition, the idea of a greater force is honestly gone. By going UFO then the major Christian sects may bring back the people to the houses of prayer. I know the ufos exist and that they are most probably the same things as the ancients talked of and prayed to and built stone circles for so it's time Christianity embraced this too and got the general public much closer to God/UFO



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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so your saying they might use this to connect with people and bring them back to the Church ? hmmm...

i haven't been across the pond so i wouldn't know what the current situation is over there where you are so thanks for sharing that info that's a different take on it and something i hadn't considered until you brought it up. are things really that bad over there ?



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Looks like the vatican is trying to be 'down with the kids' in terms of that the possibility & belief that there is alien life out there has majorly increased in the last 60 years.

And the point that has already been touched on about how they would be in a position of power if they were the first to have contact with aliens... And lets face it, if aliens did decide to get in touch then going to what is effectively the head of a long standing religion with millions of followers, would probably be on the list of who to contact first. Not Governments who are generally seen as being quite untrustworthy and corrupt.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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why would they (the Vatican) have to completely revamp the entire organization when they have already accepted the idea ? will some proof change all that ? perhaps they would have to have an official position because the Aliens have a different (or the same viewpoint) about God but that's the only reason i see right now for the Vatican to have to change anything.


and why is it so silly to believe Jesus died for our sins ? because some Alien creature from somewhere else is found ? i don't understand the logic in that. we humans have a eternal soul and we don't know if some creature from another planet or existence does.

i can't prove it but i had a close encounter experience back in the mid eighties and i know for a fact that we are being visited by some intelligent life. that experience i had did not in any way shape or form change my faith. for everyone else, i don't see why confirmation or contact with any other intelligent life will force any Christian to change their beliefs that Jesus is the Son of God and died to save us from a eternal suffering. just my opinion thanks for the reply.


[edit on 17-11-2009 by easynow]


I do not believe that ‘the Vatican’ as a whole org. already has accepted the idea of Poss. ET life. It’s a project of the Jesuits Astronomers
This ‘group’ is trying to convince the TOP of the Vatican but they need more substantial evidence.

It’s fairly unlikely that ET’s (aliens) will have a similar believe system like Christianity. This believe system is too much ‘earth-bound’. And keep in mind that it’s not the only believe system on Earth


What makes a more believable reason for ET / Vatican contact is that the Vatican is very rich and thus makes it a very strong economical partner. That could be of importance for ET’s.
The churches in general are losing people rapidly but they still have their strong economical position.

I don’t want to hurt or disrespect any Christians here, am brought up partly Roman Catholic and Dutch Reformed myself, but the story of Jesus dying for sins of other people I simply do not buy. It’s too easy to think it’s true and hence take no responsibility for one’s own Life. It reads like a fairytale and in my opinion it’s not of this time and age anymore. This kind of believe belongs in the Middle Ages, where one could ‘buy off’ their sins by paying the Holy Church.

Also I have read numerous books about the possibility that Jesus’s body died and Mary fled to the south of France. That they had children, like most people have.

However I do believe that when the ‘Spirit’ dies it can live on. Actually I believe the Soul lives on, for ever and ever.

Who knows WHAT ET’s believe about Siprits, Souls and the Afterlife?

That’s what I mean with the Vatican has to reposition it selves. It’s built on the believe in a Holy Trinity and the fact Jesus died for ALL sins in our world.


I never had a close encounter but I have had my own UFO experiences too. I also have been in a coma for over 2 months and in that period I have ‘experienced’ previous lives, a parallel-live and even a future ‘life’ (form).

For me no doubts that ET’s are here on Earth. It’s only logical when one sees the stars and the zillion galaxies out there, that we ‘humans’ are not the only intelligent life in the Universe.

God being OMNIPOTENT means in my view 'God' being Quantum on ALL levels and dimensions. Humans think they do know a lot but I think we don't know even 1% of the whole GOD concept yet.

Peace!



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by sphinx551

Originally posted by easynow
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how so ? just because "God" created other beings in the Universe all Catholics are going to run away from their faith ?


Because they could realize their religion and/or theology could be wrong amongst many different civilizations in the universe. Humans don't even know everything about the universe and they think they have the right religion/concept? Who are humans to set this mindset standard that humans on Earth right and everybody else would be wrong? Who knows if other aliens even have religion? If they do, it will be different than humans way. Then who is right and who is wrong?


[edit on 16-11-2009 by sphinx551]


just because they may be more advanced technologically doesnt mean their religious beliefs (if they have any) are more correct than humans on Earth.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Cydonia2012

just because they may be more advanced technologically doesnt mean their religious beliefs (if they have any) are more correct than humans on Earth.


Then what makes Earth humans so special out of millions or billions civilizations that exist in the universe and in other dimensions?

What makes the Earth humans think they got it right and everybody else is wrong in how they believe?

Why would aliens be more "wrong" than humans?

[edit on 17-11-2009 by sphinx551]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by sphinx551

Originally posted by Cydonia2012

just because they may be more advanced technologically doesnt mean their religious beliefs (if they have any) are more correct than humans on Earth.


Then what makes Earth humans so special out of millions or billions civilizations that exist in the universe and in other dimensions?

What makes the Earth humans think they got it right and everybody else is wrong in how they believe?

Why would aliens be more "wrong" than humans?

[edit on 17-11-2009 by sphinx551]



Im not saying the Earth humans got it right, Im just saying that its possible that if we don't have it right then the Grey or whomever comes down to discuss their religion may not have it right either. Just because their technology is superior doesnt mean their religion is "the right one" and ours the wrong one. Just because they have superior technology which allows them to come to Earth doesn't mean their belief and religion is per say the right one and ours wrong. THe "white man" came to the Americas with their religion and claimed it was the right one and many natives saw these "white men" from beyond the oceans to be some form of gods until they showed their true selves and slaughtered them mostly in the name of their religion. I just think its all relative thats all...



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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i think the vatican is changing its position on this now so when disclosure is made catholics dont see it as conflicting with their religion. it will save mass confusion when it does happen and all catholics will more readilly accept it as long as the vatican says its alright.



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