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China Will Own The United States Soon

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posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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China Will Own The United States Soon
If you have been reading about the theory, I have some very-very sad news to bring you. Our American economic crisis is creating debt, which is being overwhelming bought out by Communist China. As a result of a mountain of debt owed to China, the United States has taken steps to surrender our nation to them. Obama's visit has highlighted the magnitude of how much we owe. In order to carry out any of Obama's current plans, he would have to seek more money from China. Currently they are buying up the continent of Africa; thus, giving them a military resources advantage.

Lady's and gentlemen, we are about to lose a silent war. Its only a mater of time, and the United States will be gone in ten years. Obama is borrowing ten trillion dollars from China right at this moment, so he can reform our economic and federal system.

My prediction: Obama will announce our surrender very-very soon.

Keep your eyes open. Since I am listening to this on the radio, I will need to find links online for your consumption.

How China's taking over Africa, and why the West should be VERY worried
www.thisislondon.co.uk...

Chinese-Americans reflect on Obama’s trip
www.msnbc.msn.com...

U.S., China trapped in mutual financial reliance
www.msnbc.msn.com...

America owes China two trillion dollars. But what does that mean?

In first visit to China, Obama walks a tightrope



Giant trade deficit with U.S.
China is a huge and lucrative market for American goods and services, and yet it has a giant trade surplus with the U.S. that, like a raft of other economic issues, is a bone of contention between the two governments. The two militaries have increased their contacts, but clashes still happen and the U.S. remains worried about a dramatic buildup in what is already the largest standing army in the world.

Amid all that, Obama has adopted a pragmatic approach that stresses the positive, sometimes earning him criticism for being too soft on Beijing, particularly in the area of human rights abuses and what the U.S. regards as an undervalued Chinese currency that disadvantages U.S. products.

Obama recognizes that a rising China, as the world's third-largest economy on the way to becoming the second and the largest foreign holder of U.S. debt, has shifted the dynamic more toward one of equals. For instance, Chinese questions about how Washington spending policies will affect the already soaring U.S. deficit and the safety of Chinese investments now must be answered by Washington.


China will form United States policy in the coming years (foreign and domestic).




[edit on 16-11-2009 by Pathos]




posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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tho i will aqgree that china is the biggest buyer ... didnt the last fed auction end with no bidders?



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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I view this scenario happening in two ways.

First is that our "leaders" truly do not care about the citizens of America, and are willingly giving China all of our assets/money/whatever,

Second is that they are going to milk China for as long as they can, and they have a plan to turn around and erase all of this debt somehow. Only ways I can think of are war and the economy...each which would play dearly with everyones life's.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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I believe that China owns USA soon too.

But if "the men behind the curtain" plans on letting USA go bankrupt, gets divided into 6 seperate states and get the Amero, I see why USA just keep on loan and print money again and again !



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Since this relates to two subjects, here is some more wood for the fire:
Is China a global partner or strategic rival of U.S.?



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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This is utter rubbish. China would not even try to take over the US based on our debts to China. The US would not, under any circumstances, surrender itself to China as a result of its debts to her. This doesn't happen.

China's economy is intimately connected to that of the US. If we fail, so does China. China's only option - which applies to most countries - is to maintain the status quo and allow us to pay off our debts over time. If this doesn't happen, China's economy collapses, and so does its government.

You have to understand that international debt isn't like personal debt. There are no global collection agencies that will come to our door demanding payment. The most anyone could do is try to go to war over the debt, which would be kind of dumb. That's a war they couldn't win. If they lost, we wouldn't pay because we won the war. If they *won*, we couldn't pay because we're broke and just lost a war. So forget about wars over debts.

There is no way to enforce payment. China is relying on us to keep our credit rating good by paying off our debts. If we renege, we can forget about getting loans from anyone else.

China cannot win a war against the US. China might be able to destroy our country, but we would certainly destroy China in the process. China would not win, even if they did manage to bring us down. And even if they by some fluke could bring us down without destroying themselves, then what? They'd have destroyed their best customer. Their economy would promptly tank, and then they'd be vulnerable to Russia, among other countries...

So relax. China likes things just the way they are, the US in debt up to its eyeballs, paying it off over time.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:07 PM
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They already owns enough of our debt to influence policies in our government, Chinese lobbyist are all over congress with plenty of money to buy whores in congress.

Also beware because the middle easter rich oil countries are also starting to buy our debt with US blessings, nothing than terrorist with money now also owning America, and people think that alternative energy and CRAP and trade is going to make a different I am sure our friends in Dubai have a different opinion.

If you want to bring the greatest nation in the world to its knees without nuclear and terrorist attacks you doing with money buying one piece of America at a time.

I wonder where are the patriots in this nation lately.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by chiron613

China likes things just the way they are, the US in debt up to its eyeballs, paying it off over time.


US will never be able to repay its debt to China.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:18 PM
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reply to post by Waldy
 


Exactly the same way that we have never pay back Japan and the UK, after all they are now the following tow countries with the highest US debt.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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The Chinese and the Middle easterners will team up. This will be very good for the Europeans. I don't think the Chinese and Middle easterners will be content with owning blighted towns and decayed cities in America. The illuminanti look like a suicide cult.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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China is a direct roadblock to the goals of the NWO. You have to understand that the NWO power base stems from international bankers. These banking foundations exist in London. Overall the "trifecta" of power exists in three places......Wash. DC, London, and the Vatican. The bankers will never let China "own" the United States. The US is a key piece of the NWO puzzle. What's going to happen is war with China and Russia is pretty much inevitable at this point. China owns Africa? Not hardly. Africa is a very big continent. Even though apartheid is over England's grip over that continent has not diminished one bit and the Western world's grip overall is getting stronger, yes along with China's. The US has the entire continent of South America to plunder and pillage as well. I think in the end China will quit buying our debt. I mean what are they going to do short of starting war to make us pay it back?

The people behind the curtain may very well be evil but they are not STUPID.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Pathos
China Will Own The United States Soon


They will have to get inline for their pay out. Right behind Joe Tax payer

This is about as much as many people
here at ATS know about US debt.




I remember for YEARS everybody saying that Japan so owned the US
because they were at the time the largest investors.





Who really owns most US debt?
Foreign Investment accounts for only 29% which
includes China, Japan and the rest of the world



Source

China and others are buying US debt because, despite everything, the US is seen as relatively safe investment in uncertain times. (China also likes US debt because it helps keep Chinese exports cheap.) Countries that are a bit riskier will have that reflected in a sovereign debt rating and will have to offer higher yields. But they will still have buyers at those higher yields -- either private institutions or governments that are still net creditors.



Real Estate: China Bubble

Chinese real estate has been booming. Since 2000, year estate investments grew 200% in China. The Chinese Claymore/AlphaShares China Real Estate ETF (TAO), which tracks Chinese Real Estate went up more tan 70% since January 2009.

Now add to that:
1. The demographic nightmare that China will soon be facing.
2. The global financial crisis which continues and China which will see little choice but to loosen its monetary policy even further, slashing Chinese economical growth and result in massive unemployment, which will lead to social instability.

If there is one thing that Europa underestimates than it’s the impact of a bursting Chinese Real Estate bubble. The bubble has grown mainly on the residential side of the market, but with Beijing’s 4 trillion yuan or 586 billion USD stimulus package, the bubble also started growing on the commercial side in 2009. Remember that China pumped worth 12,9% of its GDP in stimulus packages in 2009. By way of comparison: Brazil invested less than 2% of its GDP in stimulus packages to support growth.

With 70 percent of real estate investment in China coming from bank loans, a dramatic drop in land values could send shock waves throughout the economy.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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reply to post by eradown
 


Actually the next financial super power will not be China but the UK, that is what financial analyst are predicting, with China second.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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A picture is often worth a thousand words. Thanks for the charts. It puts all so neatly into a rather distorted perspective of how screwed up our country really is.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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Thanks for the charts man. Woof.

I think I'm going to get sick. Yack!

How did good moral people become so greedy; thus, selling American ingenuity and jobs to foreign countries.

We need another industrial age in the United States; however, the technologies have to be very-very unique to out environment.

This debt needs to be paid fast.



[edit on 16-11-2009 by Pathos]



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by eradown
 


Actually the next financial super power will not be China but the UK, that is what financial analyst are predicting, with China second.


Are these the same analysts that have predicted economic growth in the UK for the past year now, and got it wrong every time!?

We are so screwed with the US.

[edit on 16-11-2009 by john124]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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There is actually a very fast way for the U.S to repay her debt. Much of the U.S debt is incurred by the U.S government artificially raising(doubling) the house prices, indirectly enslaving the citizens to a lifetime of work(and even then, they still might not be able to pay it off, especially when "unseen" circumstances like lay-offs and health problems arise). It's not the least bit surprising that the first thing that went down under in the recession was the real estate business. There is absolutely no reasons why houses should be so expensive(at the very least, they should be no more expensive than the material and the builder's pay, needed to build them).

Right now, there are about 1/3rd empty houses in the U.S. The solution is to offer those houses to a certain amount of citizens from those countries, who want to leave, at a price. In fact, they could just make a deal with those countries, and that is, if you want us to continue to accept your immigrants, then you need to forgo these debts.

In the end, you could say that the fact that the U.S has been willing to accept immigrants all over the word(which was a big step in reducing racism), as compensation for the debt. The reality is that many of these countries also brought the debt on themselves, by having way too many kids, and then expect the U.S to take care of them.

[edit on 17-11-2009 by np6888]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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Someone please explain to me how we can possibly owe them anything when nearly EVERYTHING we buy in stores these days says made in China.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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You get into deficits when you keep overspending on programs, basically if money on programs > tax money, then that equals deficit. But then they've been overtaxing people with the housing prices anyway, so in the end, the internal debt is a debt the government created for themselves.

In the end, the problem is not nearly as severe as perceived. Houses can be used as assets. But I like that immigrant deal a lot more. Not only that, tell those countries to stop producing so many people, and expect us to help them.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by FritosBBQTwist
I view this scenario happening in two ways.

First is that our "leaders" truly do not care about the citizens of America, and are willingly giving China all of our assets/money/whatever,

Second is that they are going to milk China for as long as they can, and they have a plan to turn around and erase all of this debt somehow. Only ways I can think of are war and the economy...each which would play dearly with everyones life's.


Leaders...

How about Business's?

We would not be borrowing squat if we weren't shipping all are jobs over seas and importing many things that used to be the back bone of our economy.

Not you per say, but people miss an important part of this equation of destruction.

Another part of it is US, the American consumer, look what we buy, WE HAVE A CHOICE, still...

Where is Jon Gault?

Laughing his butt off sipping Pina's




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