Finally UK media are covering Ukraine 'super flu'

Finally the UK media are giving some attention to the Ukriane 'super flu' situation:

'British scientists are examining the strain of swine flu behind a deadly Ukrainian outbreak to see if the virus has mutated.

A total of 189 people have died and more than one million have been infected in the country.

Some doctors have likened the symptoms to those seen in many of the victims of the Spanish flu which caused millions of deaths world-wide after the World War One.

An unnamed doctor in western Ukraine told of the alarming effects of the virus.

He said: 'We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal. "They look like they have been burned. It's terrifying."'

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Now the question is, why are we only now hearing about this on the media?

One possible answer as to why coverage of this news has been delayed on mass media is because once the public know, they will demand action. Close the borders etc. So by delaying it makes it easier to allow it to spread. Any other ideas?

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Over 300 are dead now.

Also, 100 have died - within a week - in Mexico.

Actually...

The Ukrainian news this today is reporting 300 dead. Close to 20 in the last 24 hours dead now.

Hi,

yes that article did get mentioned in the black as charcoal thread. The reason I started this thread was to bring attention to the fact it is now being covered by british mass media, and to ask the question why. Why indeed did we have to wait this long?

Aelf

Originally posted by Aelfrede
Hi,

yes that article did get mentioned in the black as charcoal thread. The reason I started this thread was to bring attention to the fact it is now being covered by british mass media, and to ask the question why. Why indeed did we have to wait this long?

Aelf

To be honest, and a little crass, it hasn't warrented that much media attention. A few hundred dead, whilst catastrophic to the people involved, isn't "news worthy" on a global scale.Thousands of people die each year from normal flu. So until this gets a higher infection/mortality rate, this won't be news worthy, unfortunatly.

I have heard that there are rumours in the Ukraine that there are many more dead than officially stated. Is there anyone here from the Ukraine or surrounding countries who can report on the situation?

Thanks,

Aelf

Hi,

To be honest, and a little crass, it hasn't warrented that much media attention. A few hundred dead, whilst catastrophic to the people involved, isn't "news worthy" on a global scale.Thousands of people die each year from normal flu. So until this gets a higher infection/mortality rate, this won't be news worthy, unfortunatly.

but that doesn't make sense to how the media have been treating the swine flu so far. It has all been hyped up when the mortality rate is lower than seasonal flu. So you'd think the Ukrainian situation would have been used by now to help strengthen the story. Which leads to the question why would they take so long to pick up on the Ukrainian situation?

Aelf


[edit on 16-11-2009 by Aelfrede]

Originally posted by Aelfrede
I have heard that there are rumours in the Ukraine that there are many more dead than officially stated. Is there anyone here from the Ukraine or surrounding countries who can report on the situation?

Thanks,

Aelf

i belive there's a few native Ukrainians in the big thread, but i've not been paying much attention to it to be honest. It wouldn't supprise me one little bit if the death rate is much higher, but you have to be careful wit that sort of information, cos lots of people die from lots of different complications, and stuff that may seem reated to this outbreak, might not be.

Let's hope that this is the case!!

Originally posted by Aelfrede
Hi,

To be honest, and a little crass, it hasn't warrented that much media attention. A few hundred dead, whilst catastrophic to the people involved, isn't "news worthy" on a global scale.Thousands of people die each year from normal flu. So until this gets a higher infection/mortality rate, this won't be news worthy, unfortunatly.

but that doesn't make sense to how they've been treating the swine flu on the media. It has all been hyped up when the mortality rate is lower than seasonal flu. So you'd think the Ukrainian situation would have been used by now to help strengthen the story so far. So why would they take so long to pick up on the Ukrainian situation?

Aelf

I guess the only excuse I can think of, is that it's not his "us" yet. The main "western" countries (and I know that sounds really arrogant, but I'm trying to think in media terms here) haven't been affected yet. I guess the phrase "watch this space" applies. Cos that's all we've got left to do.

hey noticed that media are using the term swine flu even thought the new virus isnt?

I guess the only excuse I can think of, is that it's not his "us" yet. The main "western" countries (and I know that sounds really arrogant, but I'm trying to think in media terms here) haven't been affected yet. I guess the phrase "watch this space" applies. Cos that's all we've got left to do.

I see what you're saying, but how does that explain the concern over Mexico?

[edit on 16-11-2009 by Aelfrede]

Here's another article covering the issue:

'A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic.

A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine.

President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation and a team of nine specialists are carrying out tests in Kiev and Lviv to identify the virus. Samples have been sent to London for analysis.

President Yushchenko said: “People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.”

In a TV interview, the President added: “Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine – two seasonal flus and the Californian flu

“Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation.”'

read more: www.express.co.uk...

Interestingly there is still nothing being said about it on BBC news


[edit on 16-11-2009 by Aelfrede]

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
hey noticed that media are using the term swine flu even thought the new virus isnt?

I knew they would end up doing that because they want to be able to say the vaccine can still be effective

Its about damn time the MSM has picked this up.Of course us ATSers have been in on the story from the start.Thank heaven for ATS!

Originally posted by AgentX09
Its about damn time the MSM has picked this up.Of course us ATSers have been in on the story from the start.Thank heaven for ATS!

Too right!

Originally posted by Aelfrede
One possible answer as to why coverage of this news has been delayed on mass media is because once the public know, they will demand action. Close the borders etc. So by delaying it makes it easier to allow it to spread. Any other ideas?

It's also possible that global panic that results in closed borders and everyone avoiding public places...chokes the life out of the fragile economy and sends the world into a great depression. With the leaders of the world actually desperate to avoid economic collapse because the accompanying dramatic increase in job loss and wealth destruction would bring an immense risk, of these politicians in power losing their jobs, come the next held election cycles of their countries.



[edit on 16-11-2009 by Phantomfire707]

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If this is as deadly as they say or portray it to be... i don't think it would get MSM because it would start causing panic for sure... think about it:

'This is the breaking news... a plague of sorts has been identified in the Ukraine and is spreading like wildfire... 300 people have died already and the reports are it looks similar to the The Plague and so means we could see millions of people die'

Do you think this would cause widespread panic?

I think we should wait for the facts about this virus before spreading fear!!

[edit on 16-11-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

this is not a virus, but some radiation poisoning, that's why no reporting, pipal aren't so stupid here as there in Ukraine, nobody comes here saying: close the windows overnight as we be 'disinfecting the air'

pipal would grab a house mop and stick this in to announcer here, i sink