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Obama to China: Uncensored society is healthy

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posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:11 AM
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Obama to China: Uncensored society is healthy


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SHANGHAI – President Barack Obama gave China a pointed, unexpected nudge to stop censoring the Internet access of its own people, offering an animated defense of the tool that helped him win the White House — and telling his tightly controlled hosts not to be wary of a little criticism.

"I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable," Obama said Monday (cont)...
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posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:11 AM
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Well there's so much to pick at in this article, starting with the title how much of a double standard is this? We are suffering ever-increasing censorship here, complete with big-brother style surveillance to boot. Perhaps what he really means to say is,
"Look China, we can control and condition people very well. So much so that they actually believe the above and that they can hold us accountable - please, haha!". Speaking of holding to account:


"We do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation," Obama said


Oh really? So what's all this 'bringing democracy to Iraq' business then? Was that an admission it had nothing to do with Saddam and we were just after the natural resources after all? So if he speaketh with forked tongue, we can assume that when he says, "I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have free Internet — or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged." - he really means that censorship of the internet is on it's way. With Rockefeller and the like stating that the internet should never have been invented, I'm wondering if the end of the web as we know it could happen sooner than we think.

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posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:16 AM
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Damn, I just realised that I accidentally posted this in "Beaking Alternative News" instead of "Breaking Political News", could a mod please move it to the correct section? Thanks.


[edit on 16-11-2009 by Goathief]



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:18 AM
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just another example of Obama not being able to do right for doing wrong.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:29 AM
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is this a joke???

Seriously, the hypocrisy of the United States is astounding. The Chinese should have broken out in laughter after Obama had the audacity to say something like this



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:31 AM
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yeah um, i find this odd. it also seems to be an acknowledgment of China as a Superpower.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:38 AM
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What part of the Internet does the US restrict again?

The page that tells about it must be restricted because I can't access it!

I search google and all I find are bills from years ago that were supposed to restrict the internet.

So the list must have been restricted!



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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I actually think that was pretty cool of Obama to go to China and say that directly to their government publicly. People are jailed for merely e-mailing outside of their country.
www.nytimes.com.../News/World/Countries%20and%20Territories/C hina


What part of the internet is censored here in the States? You can fear-monger as much as you want but guess what it's not... ATS is exactly what Obama is talking about. How many moronic things that have no basis in reality are written about Obama here on a daily basis? Yet, you're free to do so and everyone in the United States is free to log onto this site, read those retarded posts, have a good laugh, and then move on.

The anti-Obama movement would actually have some weight to it if it wasn't so childish and ignorant about every little thing.

[edit on 16-11-2009 by CuriousSkeptic]



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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The BS from TPTB just keeps on getting bigger,stinkier,hotter,steamer than a bull turd on a hot summer day and bigger than a dinosaur turd. Why don't he say the same for his own country.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Who knows, maybe Obama would say the same for the U.S. if in fact there was any type of internet censorship here. I mean, give me one website that my government has blocked and I will stand corrected, but I don't think that you will be able to provide that.

Come on people, I am no Obama supporter, but the people on these political boards are embracing ignorance more and more by the minute. Find some real issues to dog the man over, there are plenty if you all will just do a little research and stop jumping on every lame thread that comes along.





posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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This guy has some balls that is for sure. Everybody that reads this should take a look at the guys running the FCC that were put there by the president. And what about net neutrality?



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
is this a joke???

Seriously, the hypocrisy of the United States is astounding. The Chinese should have broken out in laughter after Obama had the audacity to say something like this



I think they did

[edit on 17-11-2009 by HumbleStudent111]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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Simple question kids. What website does the US Government block from it's citizens.

I'm waiting.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 05:29 AM
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Simple answer---- Mark Lloyd chief diversity czar appointed by obama, he likes communism and thinks hugo chaves has the right idea about regulating his country.

Cars.gov---- Lets the goverment actually own your computer.

Net neutrality law pushed for by the adminstration

I wish I could believe the world was a good place and flowers would sprout out of rear end. But sadly this is not the case. I truly believe it is only a matter of time and the right situation and the net will be censored.

I hope this answers your simple question. Maybe ATS will open up a super foe list so you can put me on that to. I actually enjoy the oportunity you give to me so I can show you the error of your logic.



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
Simple question kids. What website does the US Government block from it's citizens.

I'm waiting.


Wikileaks was blocked, thankfully they managed to get it lifted.

Online gambling, particularly poker sites are banned.

Filtering of Google search results based on IP/location.

These are a few off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more examples if you look for them. Now I've answered your simple question, does that change anything for you?



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
Simple question kids. What website does the US Government block from it's citizens.

I'm waiting. [/quote

I have to wonder if this is just being uninformed or something else. The facts do not lie. To say the goverment is not looking into how to control the internet has got to be one of only two things. How do explain Mark Lloyd over at the FCC


[edit on 17-11-2009 by Subjective Truth]



posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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Actually, Obama did NOT tell the Chinese government anything of the sort. Obama brought it up in a "town hall" meeting of students. The photo opt was actually meant for American consumption, not Chinese. This was a feeble attempt by Obama to try to show that he can be tough with the Chinese. Of course, the Chinese KNOW what a pushover he is, and that they have him by the ****s, since they hold most of our debt.
In fact, ALL of our enemies KNOW that he is ALL TALK and NO ACTION. After bowing down to the Japanese Emperor, the next thing he'll do, is kiss Hu Jintao's posterior. Iran knows he won't do anything, and Israel knows that they'll have to go it alone with Iran. In fact, given enough time, Obama will give away the family jewels, and thank our enemies for taking them.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Goathief



Online gambling, particularly poker sites are banned.


Um, wrong. I live in the US and have access to plenty of poker sites.


Filtering of Google search results based on IP/location.


Pray tell what they are filtering? I wish you were right on this to some degree, but I can go to Google, and find links to child porn, beastiality, and all sorts of other completely deplorable, and illegal things.


These are a few off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more examples if you look for them. Now I've answered your simple question, does that change anything for you?


Nope, changes nothing. It does show however that you will make statements out of thin air that have no proof what so ever behind them.

EDIT FOR SPELLING

[edit on 19-11-2009 by Majiq]



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Exactly what is being censored? And links needed to be provided. Hearsay is not a reason.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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I have a friend who is in China at this very moment. He has a laptop with him but cannot use it to update Facebook to let his friends know about his trip because it is blocked. For some reason, though, he is still able to use his phone to make the updates.

Now I don't for a moment believe certain elements in our government wouldn't, under the right circumstances, censor the internet in any way they thought necessary. The people who want to make comparisons between the current state of censorship here and in China are way off base. The situation here does not resemble that in China.




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