Extraterrastriality: The Birth of a New Religion, page 2
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reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 03:28 PM by karl 12
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Are you seriously suggesting there exists government documentary evidence for the existence of god?

Are you seriously suggesting that gods and goddesses get visualy corellated on mulitple radar screens exhibiting electromagnetic effects on aircraft?


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 03:41 PM by HankMcCoy
Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by HankMcCoy


Are you seriously suggesting there exists government documentary evidence for the existence of god?

Are you seriously suggesting that gods and goddesses get visualy corellated on mulitple radar screens exhibiting electromagnetic effects on aircraft?



No, Im seriously suggesting that Extraterrestrialists believe that the government has evidence of ET and that the Extraterrestrialists believe visual correlation of multiple radar screens exhibiting electromagnetic effects on aircraft are Extraterrestrial in origin.

Your 'evidence' is not conclusive, if it were, it would be a different discussion.

Why don't Gods and Goddesses show up on radar? The same reason aliens don't show up in oil stains on the sides of churches. The faithful look for their 'supernatural beings' in the places they expect to find them.


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 06:00 PM by john124
reply to post by HankMcCoy


If we analyse the differences between any generalised belief in god and generalised belief in aliens, then there are vast differences.

Firstly belief in any god implies belief in a creator, but not all beliefs in ET will have beliefs of creation.

Now, aliens are in a sense going to be just another evolved creature much like ourselves, and the rest of life on planet earth. Hence, we would be an alien to them, as much are they are alien to us.

Extraterrestrial means "from another body (planet, moon etc) in the galaxy or universe etc, i.e. not originally from or born on earth".

Although if humans migrate to mars and have offspring, then they are technically a martian?

There's scientific evidence backing the assertion that life probably exists elsewhere as well. There's zero scientific evidence of a creator.

I think it's a fair to say that aliens are just what we can call people like ourselves. The definition of people may have to be expanded, but I'm sure they have hobbies, likes, dislikes etc just like ourselves. I wouldn't worship these "people" anymore than I worship people on earth.

If we go a step further and state we think they are visiting, then that requires some form of faith, until we have sufficient evidence for proof of visitation such as some form of physical evidence. But do these believers also worship them like an invisible god? Do the majority have their ufology idols, or actually does the majority of those claiming to witness a UFO just feel curious and a bit more open-minded than they previously were?

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reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 06:11 PM by HankMcCoy
Originally posted by john124
reply to post by HankMcCoy


If we analyse the differences between any generalised belief in god and generalised belief in aliens, then there are vast differences.

Firstly belief in any god implies belief in a creator, but not all beliefs in ET will have beliefs of creation.


This is incorrect. Religion doesn't need to have a creation story, many of them have one, all it needs is the belief that a supernatural being or force is influencing their destiny.


There's scientific evidence backing the assertion that life probably exists elsewhere as well. There's zero scientific evidence of a creator.


Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence. The same standard is actually used for both examples.

I think it's a fair to say that aliens are just what we can call people like ourselves. The definition of people may have to be expanded, but I'm sure they have hobbies, likes, dislikes etc just like ourselves. I wouldn't worship these "people" anymore than I worship people on earth.

If we go a step further and state we think they are visiting, then that requires some form of faith. But do these believers also worship them like an invisible god?


Read some of the posts at ATS. It's fair to say that many people do worship the aliens are terrible gods bent on destroying us.. or malevolent protectors helping us along our paths.


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 06:35 PM by john124
reply to post by HankMcCoy


This is incorrect. Religion doesn't need to have a creation story, many of them have one, all it needs is the belief that a supernatural being or force is influencing their destiny.


I wouldn't call aliens anymore supernatural than cats or dogs. Everything influences us in some way, so that can hardly be used as a distinguishing factor.

Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence. The same standard is actually used for both examples.


I'm not stating we have direct evidence, but there's plenty of indirect evidence such as recent discoveries of protein sequences in the outer solar system to support theories that RNA travelled to earth via comets, and heavier elements like carbon and iron could only have been formed in cores of stars, and that would make us all star matter. Astrobiology is a big part of science now, yet I don't see astrotheology becoming a science anyday soon!

Read some of the posts at ATS. It's fair to say that many people do worship the aliens are terrible gods bent on destroying us.. or malevolent protectors helping us along our paths.


It's hardly a true sample of the population to determine the answers to those questions.

Anyhow, even if a significant number of believers do worship some form of alien entity, it hardly changes the perspective that it's probable there are "people" having the same discussion elsewhere in this universe or even megaverse, using whatever tools or methods of communications they have forged. Much like if another human being worshipped another imaginary human being as a god, it doesn't make us become less human.

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