(This is very raw.. just an idea I have been playing with while staring at all the dead bodies all day.. let me know what you think.)

Extraterrestriality: The Birth of a New Religion

I believe we are on the cusp of a new religion that -will- overtake a lot of the older religions in the world ..in a thousands years or so..

Princeton.edu defines religion as..

* S: (n) religion, faith, religious belief (a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny) "he lost his faith but not his morality"
* S: (n) religion, faith, organized religion (an institution to express belief in a divine power) "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him"

There are a few things we have to consider if we are going to place Extraterrestriality into the realm of a modern religion. Here are a few points..

1. Is there a 'supernatural' being in place that somehow manipulates the destiny of man?

Unequivocally, the answer to that is the heart of the belief system of that average Extraterrestrialist. The Extraterrestrial is the newest incarnation of the Higher Power, whether he be seen as a god or an angel is not the important part of the focus. The mere fact that the Extraterrestrial has powers and insights that man does not makes accounts for his supernatural abilities.

2. Is there a testament to the Extraterrestrials?

Many MANY books are written as factual accounts. Some are seen as evidence, some are seen as fallacy. There is not as of yet a set 'bible' on Extraterrestriality, and competing myths are still being argued over.

3. Are there any holy sites or shrines associated with Extraterrestriality?

Yes, many. Everything from Easter Island, the Pyramids, to Area 51 can be considered a holy site for the religion. There are far more, but I will spare you a more complete list.

4. Do the Extraterrestrials perform miracles?

Believers see many miracles performed by the Extraterrestrials, some of which are documented and used as evidence as to the existence of the beings.

5. Is there a place of worship for Extraterrestriality?

Some would argue that ATS is such a place, and I would be inclined to agree. I would also humbly suggest that if there were a place you could go every week to openly discuss your beliefs with others without fear of ridicule that you would JUMP at the chance, regardless of what your topic of interest is..so I believe it is a matter of time before places like that pop up for Extraterrestriality.

6. Can you "pray" to the Extraterrestrials?

There are many threads on ATS giving detailed descriptions of what appear to be prayer like rituals focused on Extraterrestrial contact. Many people claim to receive sacred knowledge from the Extraterrestrials.

7. Are there priests/prophets in Extraterrestriality?

The names of the priests/prophets are familiar to anyone inside the community. Friedman, Strieber, von Daniken, Meier, and the list goes on.

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What we are witnessing right now is the birth of the next big religion. Eventually it will become more organized, perhaps after some incredibly well done hoax that is never able to be debunked and is given 'Messiah" status by the believers.

I think it's fun to think about the next generation of sheep being lead by the misunderstood quotes of some of today's Ufogists. In the future, The E.T. Bible will state.. 2 Strieber 4:17 "If there is to be a human future, the human mind has to change."



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Will the extra terrestrial finally admit to evolutionary seeding on this planet? If we're going to be thinking about a new religion we need to get this settled.

Will their medical technology offer extended or even immortal life?

Will initiates be allowed secret knowledge or entrance to restricted areas?

Will the extra's have better film or photography skills they can lend us?

Will the believers have access to cool gadgets and weaponry so they may smite non believers?

Will the fares between planets be affordable? Is immigration hard? How is customs, can we bring earth food?

Are there any cool sexy ones with different coloured skins?

By that same token, will they be here to breed with us. Is this feasible?

Do we have to tithe?

Can I borrow the keys to that spaceship?

this has already happened! check the bible for more info.

Originally posted by Seiko
Will the extra terrestrial finally admit to evolutionary seeding on this planet? If we're going to be thinking about a new religion we need to get this settled.

That would be for the prophets to conclude when they hammer out which of the books will be canon and which books with be the new apocrypha. My best guess is.. the E.T.'s will be the ones responsible or the seeding of the planet.. but my guess is based on what I have read about what the believers already think.

Originally posted by RoyalCanadian
this has already happened! check the bible for more info.

Actually, you are looking at the Bible from an Extraterrestrialist viewpoint. An Extraterretrialist would look at the bible and see aliens, much like a Christian would look at an Alien and see a Demon.

Thanks for helping with my point!

ROFLMFAO!!

Any intelligent nonhuman beings worth getting to know and formally aligning with, if ever applicable, will, or definitely should, be completely and very clearly against the slave race concept of religion... worship, praise, grovelling and like nonsense. All intelligent beings have equal rights to equal access of all knowledge and methods that they can physically comprehend and undertake. No masters, no slaves. Good Christ Almighty, isn't there plenty of "proof in the pudding" of the utter fallacy of religion already? What a dark, dark, sad little "civilization" the people on this rock in the outer rim hinterlands of the galaxy have. End rant.

Originally posted by Dean Goldberry
ROFLMFAO!!

Any intelligent nonhuman beings worth getting to know and formally aligning with, if ever applicable, will, or definitely should, be completely and very clearly against the slave race concept of religion... worship, praise, grovelling and like nonsense. All intelligent beings have equal rights to equal access of all knowledge and methods that they can physically comprehend and undertake.

And that's just it.

Like the rest of the religions of the world, Extraterrestraility is based on fallacy. We don't have E.T.s visiting the Earth, we just have people faithfully believing that we do. Religion, true lasting religion, rarely just sneaks up on you. You have to have concepts and ideas that people WANT to believe are true.

We WANT to believe that the ETs are going to treat us with respect, but for that to happen, the ETs have to be real.

If I were God, I would send multiple Messiahses around the universe.

Disclosure will not mean the end of christianity. Even the Vatican supports this.
Disclosure will only mean that we have to view christianity from a new angle.

Originally posted by aalien
If I were God, I would send multiple Messiahses around the universe.

Disclosure will not mean the end of christianity. Even the Vatican supports this.
Disclosure will only mean that we have to view christianity from a new angle.

So, you are a Christian that believes that Aliens are merely more offspring of God? It appears Christianity is adapting to the idea that Extraterrestiality to keep members that believe in ET from jumping ranks and switching over. If the Church "acknowledges" that ET exists, then he is a creation of God, and the Church wont lose any sheep.

It's all about religious power.

Originally posted by aalien
If I were God, I would send multiple Messiahses around the universe.

Disclosure will not mean the end of christianity. Even the Vatican supports this.
Disclosure will only mean that we have to view christianity from a new angle.

I think this is true, i think the vatican has believed in aliens for along time.

The op, does havea point, and i wonder when it will be seen as such.

I suppose the alien thing turning into a religion depends on the ptb, and wther they see that as a new control mechanism, to keep us in check.

But if alien disclosure ever takes place, i am sure plenty will fall at the feet of so called aliens, thinking they are gods, and in plenty of ways we are helping that presumption here, in saying that the bible is depicting the aliens coming down from the heavens.

Originally posted by andy1033
But if alien disclosure ever takes place, i am sure plenty will fall at the feet of so called aliens, thinking they are gods, and in plenty of ways we are helping that presumption here, in saying that the bible is depicting the aliens coming down from the heavens.

Again, anyone saying that the Bible depicts ETs are looking at it as an Extraterrestrialist, not as a Christian.

And sure, if the ET's come down, lots of people will convert to Extraterrestriality.

However..

.. If Jesus were to appear many would convert to Christianity.
.. If Shiva appeared, many would become Hindu..
.. If Zeus appeared people would convert..
.. If the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse ended up being The Beatles.. Charles Manson would end up being praised as a prophet.

Religion is funny like that.

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Ah yes, the "Rapture" of Extraterrestriality.. Disclosure.

Disclosure isn't the Rapture of Extraterrestriality, it is equal parts the Apocalypse (revelation), Armageddon (the sinners are punished) and the Second Coming (salvation).

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
We don't have E.T.s visiting the Earth, we just have people faithfully believing that we do.

If you know that for a fact then you're a better person than me.

There are quite a number of UFO incidents that are extremely difficult to dismiss - they also leave cynics and debunkers with one hell of a lot of explaining to do.

As for equating UFOs with religious belief - its a bit of an unfair analogy due to comparative discrepencies in evidence:

UFOs -evidence:

Credible government documentary evidence, credible radar/sonar evidence, credible electromagnetic interference evidence, credible ground trace evidence and credible (circumstantial) evidence in the form of sworn eyewitness testimony from 1000s of credible individuals.




Theological opinion -evidence:

None.

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Disclosure isn't the Rapture of Extraterrestriality, it is equal parts the Apocalypse (revelation), Armageddon (the sinners are punished) and the Second Coming (salvation).

Disclosure would be the Rapture because like the Rapture, Disclosure will be over 'in the twinkling of an eye'.. Government Person tells us what they know about aliens. Disclosure over.

Then comes..

Apocalypse..(Revelation) ET lands on Earth witnessed by everyone openly for the first time.

Armageddon (War at Megiddo) ET is forced to fight Earthling bent on destroying them

Second Coming (Salvation) ET defeats those wanting to destroy them and ushers in a new ra of joy and hope for humanity



That is why I think Disclosure is the Rapture.

Sorry, maybe I missed the Memo but......

Wouldn't this be called SCIENTOLOGY?????

Originally posted by karl 12
There are quite a number of UFO incidents that are extremely difficult to dismiss - they also leave cynics and debunkers with one hell of a lot of explaining to do.

As for equating UFOs with religious beleif - its a bit of an unfair analogy due to comparative discrepencies in evidence:

For every piece of UFO evidence you can show me, I can show you a Virgin Mary made by a rust stain on from an empty pipe, or someone with the stigmata, or a crying statue in India. I have already discussed the fact that Extraterrestriality has its own miracles. Miracles that are unexplainable, but not scientific evidence because they cannot be scientifically duplicated.

Call a spacecraft to land tonight and I will concede.
Call the Virgin Mary to appear on my toast tomorrow morning.
Call Jesus to cut may hands or have Buddha cry tears of milk.

I don't dismiss miracles, I merely question their nature.

UFOs -evidence:

Credible government documentary evidence, credible radar/sonar evidence, credible electromagnetic interference evidence, credible ground trace evidence and credible (circumstantial) evidence in the form of sworn eyewitness testimony from 1000s of credible individuals.

I can find thousands of people willing to give testimony that Jesus is real.. it doesn't make it so. I can find people, like I said, that will show evidence of all kinds of miracles.. so your example doesn't really hold water... or wine.

Scientologists and Raelians try to sell their religions as science. Belief in extraterrestrial visitation is more "scientific" than the outdated conceptions of old.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
Sorry, maybe I missed the Memo but......

Wouldn't this be called SCIENTOLOGY?????

No.

Scientology is a farce created by a Science Fiction writer. It is made up of a mythology that was created by him in an effort to extract money from rich people.

Extraterrestriality is a living breathing religion that is still without dogma. It is without the confines of a set of rules, or even one set belief structure. The Mythology is still being written. We have Greys and Grays and Reptilians and Pileadians and on and on..