Treasure in the Ozarks Yocum Silver Dollars?, page 1

Let me start off with a little of my personal knowledge..

Mods move this to the proper forum, if this is not the right one..started to put it in ancient civil...but I think this is more proper.....dunno...

YOCUM SILVER DOLLARS
www.garycoderproperties.com...

The claims of the mine, and many other theories, are not my concern, I am looking at this like a treasure hunt, I am following the idea that, not where the silver they had, came from, whether through, mining or trade.

But where the part they had came to rest, the minted, or bulk part.

There was a shortage of silver in the nation around the early 1800's...the gov't evan limited coinage/production..

One of the many rumoured theories to this is, that the Osage & or Delaware Indians, took control of a Spanish convoy going up the White River, and attained many thousands of pounds of silver. Which later became the Yucoms through trust & trade.

The other is that they had a mine that is now lost, but many claim to have found the mine.

It is known that they had a silver mine,
www.argenweb.net...
but as to the actual knowledge of it being productive, is another story!

Little more info.....here....
thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org...

I have been interested in this subject for 15-20 years now and have my own thoughts, maps, and theories.

I have met much of the family, and some school friends, "If they have a big stash of silver, they are keeping it hid, because they were known throughout 1870-early 1900's as being extremely poor, most of the childeren, had no shoes"

The story takes many paths, including the one I tend to follow...
Although not the most popular..My theory is that they had, some silver...
Most likely Mexican silver IMHO
And they made an alloy out of that silver, "although many claim that their coinage was more pure" than the U S coinage.
Using lead, and Mexican silver dollars, melting them and using a specific ratio to stretch their dollars..lead is shiny and resembles silver when polished and/or mixed with silver.

That theory, imho gives the source for the origins of the silver, and would also follow the reason for the denial/secracy of the coins after the gov't got involved!

Any ways.... I have much more info. on this subject and just wanted to see if there was anyone else that had heard of this or had any new info.

So basically I just want to know if this is of interest to others!








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[edit on 15-11-2009 by Doc Holiday]

The location I believe this took place is where the James River met the White River prior to the dam and the lake of course.
Right where the Marmaros name is located, "which the old town is now under the lake"

maps.google.com...,-93.454514&spn=0.186176,0.307274&z=12

It is said that the brothers lived on apposing banks, on top of the bluffs there. And could talk/communicate, across the distance

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Hey, this is very interesting information to me personally as I have grown up fishing and floating the upper white river.
I've also heard rumors of silver in the area, but never anything definative.

Where does the James River meet the White River? I'm gathering it is in Missouri somewhere.

Ummm... I've also heard rumors that after the natives were thrown off of the land here and relocated in Oklahoma that they had a treaty that allowed them to come back into the area once a year for a little while and that upon their return they were bringing back vast amounts of silver that they picked up somewhere along the *Kings* River.

I've been interested in that one for quite some time as well, but never really got too involved with it.

If you have any specifics I would love to hear them as I actually spend a fair amount of time out and about on both of these rivers.

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So it's up there on Table Rock?

You know, that's the problem with anything like a silvermine or whatnot being located along the White River. The Federal Government all but owns the entire upper half of the river.

Nah, I've never heard of the Mountain you speak of. I do most of my stomping around South of the Missouri/Arkansas border. But this isn't a long drive for me. I used to spend a lot of time on Table Rock as a youth.

I grew up in Berryville.

Anyhow, have you heard any of the rumors that I mentioned earlier about the Silver being found on the Kings somewhere?

[edit on 15-11-2009 by JayinAR]

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Star and a flag, Doc, because I love treasure stories! Had a girlfriend in Alberta whose father used to head out to the weekends to hunt for the Lost Lemon Mine. Never came back with ore...but always had fish. Never did figure out how that worked...

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Ah, the Kings is a fantastic river to float.
Deep and blue in many places. Wonderful scenery to boot.
That is if you aren't floating the tailwaters. Move up river some and it is a wonderful river to float. And fish.

The fishing is really good down near the 86 bridge, but the water is a little murky there as it is getting close to tablerock at that point.

20 Miles south from the Blue Eye area, you say?
Well heck, those are my stomping grounds. I'd almost bet it has another name and that I have been there.

I may be able to be of use to you, if you are interested.

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It is weird how people name mountains. If it is the same mountain I am thinking of, I have always called it "cookie monster" mountain. Since I was a kid.
If it is the same mountain, you will know why I called it that.

And yeah, I've been to hemmed in several times. My avatar pic was taken very near there.

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Nah, the Avatar Pic was taken about 1 mile SW of Hemmed in on the Goat's Trail.
Big Bluff.
Whatever you want to call it.

You know, I still have never gone to Sam's Throne. I've been meaning to for years, but I just fell in love with the Ponca area and do a LOT of my hiking there.

Okay, if we are speaking of the same mountain, and admittedly we may not be, I have a buddy that lives at the base of that mountain. No joke. Pretty odd coincidence that you would bring this up.

Anyhow, you can access it somewhat easily (although it is pretty danged steep and goes up quite a ways) from the North Side of the mountain.

If it is the same mountain, you will be coming off of the highway there.

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You should have a U2U in your box now.
Umm. Well, just check the U2U.

Speaking of Jesse James, I can guarantee that much of the story.
If you go to Saunder's Museum in Berryville, Arkansas you can learn much of his exploits in the area. They've got some of his pistols there as well.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by JayinAR]

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