obama refuses to salute the flag...AGAIN!!, page 2


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reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 12:20 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by Regenmacher



That was truly a great find. Many stars for you.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by Witness2008]


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 12:48 PM by amari
reply to post by mr-lizard



That piece of textile refered by you happens to be the American Flag that

many have fought and died for and is still the flag and symbol of the United

States Of America.


Health care has to be paid by someone and that someone will be you paying

for your neighbors health care. Should we now change the Pledge of

Allegiance to I pledge the allegiance to the flag of The United States of

America and to the Republic for which it stands one Nation under God

indivisible with Liberty, Justice and health care for all. Oh I am sorry God in

some circles should be taken out. ^Y^


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 07:40 PM by JohnPhoenix
reply to post by Regenmacher



Hey, that's one I haven't seen. Thanks. I will give you a star because you got an A on the assignment.


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 10:33 PM by mr-lizard
Originally posted by amari
reply to
post by mr-lizard



That piece of textile refered by you happens to be the American Flag that

many have fought and died for and is still the flag and symbol of the United

States Of America.


"There is no flag big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people" - Howard Zinn



Health care has to be paid by someone and that someone will be you paying

for your neighbors health care.


And the fact that you make it sound like a bad thing proves a lot to me.



reply posted on 16-11-2009 @ 06:10 PM by amari
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by amari
reply to
post by mr-lizard



That piece of textile refered by you happens to be the American Flag that

many have fought and died for and is still the flag and symbol of the United

States Of America.


"There is no flag big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people" - Howard Zinn



Health care has to be paid by someone and that someone will be you paying

for your neighbors health care.


And the fact that you make it sound like a bad thing proves a lot to me.







Since you refer to Howard Zinn what are your true thoughts on civilians

being killed in the line of fire during horrible wars and is it avoidable?


Remember war goes both ways and on 911 most were civilians who were

specifically targeted and murdered.


It proves that I pay for my own health care and government controlled and

run health care is the beginning of controlling every aspect of the Weople's

lives in the U.S.A.


Why shouldn't every American be guaranteed a job, home, car, food and

where does it stop especially when our democrat leaders are promoting

government controlled health care and our nation is essentially broke and

Trillions in debt?


I am all for helping people and I do it everyday but I do not want

government telling and forcing me to do so. ^Y^


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 03:42 AM by spellbound
reply to post by Kailassa



I don't see why you say he gets it?

If the President doesn't put his hand over his heart, surely that is disrespect to the flag and therefore the American nation?


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 08:47 AM by Libertygal
Originally posted by mr-lizard
haha that's the funniest post in weeks.

You're angry because a person refuses to make a hand movement towards a piece of textile.


Although this picture was proven to not be accurate, I thought I wold address your post. This *person* you are referring to is the President of the United States. He is also the Commander in Chief of our armed forces.

Allow me to enlighten you, there are Federal laws about the flag.
www.ushistory.org...

The laws relating to the flag of the United States of America are found in detail in the United States Code. Title 4, Chapter 1 pertains to the flag; Title 18, Chapter 33, Section 700 regards criminal penalties for flag desecration; Title 36, Chapter 3 pertains to patriotic customs and observances. These laws were supplemented by Executive Orders and Presidential Proclamations.
(snip)
§4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute. [See Congressional Notes re use of "under God."]
(snip)
§10. Modification of rules and customs by President
Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation


There is more to it than just some silly custom.
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