Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
It's not about them telling me what to do..
We all agree to the T&C.
Or if you don't agree stop using the service.
Now its easy to overlook something in the T&C.
To admit it and correct your error is admirable.
Some people are too dishonest and will keep using AdBlock anyway.
To them I say get a life.
Only people with integrity deserve to use this forum.
Please turn off your adblocks because it's the right thing to do!
[edit on 14-11-2009 by JohnPhoenix]
Well if you do some research on this place, you will see that it is an unreasonable request to ask if it were enforced. This place would see a
dramatically substantial exodus from ATS. Many wouldn't even wait to find out if members were banned for not turning off their popup killer. When you
consider the amount of complaints this site has been suspected of, for malware and vundo, vundo-hybrid viruses. I remember castle cops was even
commenting on it but it was long ways back so i don't know what they had confirmed. I don't think however that the owners have anything to do with
that and are, or at least try to be as careful, screening advertisers out who might try something like that.
I know for a fact I was hit by the vundo virus from this site. I had just finished a fresh install of my store bought version of winxp and this was
the very first site I had gone to and I got warning on two anti virus type software but they could not remove it. Someone here who had also complained
of the same experience, suggested "Malware Bytes" a free program for trial use that actually removes the virus for you regardless of whether you
purchased it yet or not and it worked very effectively. I highly recommend it. I don't think their is anything wrong with a website like this making
money from advertising and thinks some of the commentary vilifying the amigos for turning a buck, are the same as those who think giving money to a
church is evil and capitalism has ruined America. The T&C are irrelevant as a contract goes when you consider it offers absolutely no recourse and
every single rule whether you abide or not, if for some reason someone gets a wild hair up there butt, all that compliance means nothing in the final
analysis. NOTE: At the bottom where ATS T&C saves for themselves, the ultimate trump card option whereas ATS reserves the right to terminate your
membership regardless, for any reason
That means a personality conflict or any ambiguous reason what so ever. You'll never know as most of the posts made about such issues are always
"spoken about behind the scenes" and everyone is on a need to know basis with no names ever mentioned making a case for those who've felt their
banning was unjust, very difficult to prove.
The ideas claiming a bias here, left or right, or that this place is a CIA front, cointelpro etc, is HOGWASH. It does seem to lean to the left but you
have to take these kinds of complaints on a case-by-case basis, unless you can prove a conspiracy of sorts is going on here but I have not seen
anything that comes close to corroborate that. All websites that advertise, risk the possibility for malware ads employed by deceitful advertisers and
whenever they have been found here, it was dealt with fast from what thread posts indicate. Seems Mr. Irvine took the allegations serious enough to
address them personally. AS for the popup thing, I was surprised to see that in there and I am quite familiar with reading contracts line by line
checking for unenforceable legalese etc.
The bottom line is if you don't like it, don’t sign up. However, if you do and keep the popup off, Hey, if ATS doesn’t like it, they can ban em
I doubt those who got banned under such an unreasonably unwise request, would lose sleep over it. The more YOU see, BEING here as the bigger
opportunity than what you provide for ATS, the less likely you'll see why this is such an unreasonable request to ask.
When the members are contributing almost all of the content people are addicted to reading and arguing here. Losing a few members over a trivial
added desire by the owners is one thing but gambling a substantial number of them leaving on their own volition is another. I HATE MALWARE a helluva a
lot more than I love this place and I think I speak for those who still have a mind of there own here and some idea of the value they as a group,
provide for the owners and their member generated content.
If everyone here were to sound as willing to do what is considered wise and prudent browser settings in today’s Internet with all its scam ware out
there, I would AT least expect that if they really wanted to enforce that, it would be just as reasonable then, to hold ATS liable for any malware
attacks on member’s computers. That is regardless of holds harmless clauses.
Therefore, that kind of T&C rule has YOUR name, written all over it. You can take that for what it's worth and if that kind of setting is worth it to
Obviously, it is
[edit on 16-11-2009 by Kerry_Knight]