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Originally posted by tribewilder
There is only love and fear, everything else is a product of those, including Satan, which as you say, does not exist except in the minds of man.
no disrespect to those that believe otherwise.....
The usual image used to portray Satan / Devil (who represents the epitome of all evil), is of a guy with horns / tail / cloven hooves / goat-like eyes etc. etc. etc. Hang-on a minute that could also be a representation of 'Pan' ... the facet of God that depicts untamed nature / the wild places (moors / woods / animals / man etc), that was a vital aspect of the God-status to Pagans (Paganism refers to any pre-Christian faith).
Originally posted by Mr Mask
Wow...you single handedly debunked Satan right there!
Is God next?
reply to post by csuldm
I personally feel like Satan and God/Jesus all exist on a higher plane, but manifest themselves differently here in our world.
Temptation is obviously all around us on a day to day basis. Whether it is the temptation to do good, or the temptation to do evil.
The way I have always viewed it, is that we are "test creatures". We are put here on Earth, innocent from the start. But our surroundings and potential choices are provided for us by God/Jesus and Satan, as a sort of test to see which side we will "choose", and then obviously once the "test period" of our lives is over (we die), we are granted the fruits of our labors, whether they be good (go to Heaven) or bad (go to Hell).
Remember this is only my own personal opinion, so don't try and prove me wrong and say how dumb I am and proceed to try and force your own opinions on me... you are only wasting your time.
You say that you've found evidence of Jesus, but not of Satan. So, what was Jesus doing here, if there isn't any Satan? Wasn't Jesus's whole point of being here, to free mankind from the grip of evil, as embodied or incarnated as Satan?
And how do you explain all the truly evil things that have happened throughout the world - genocides, massacres, wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes, etc.? The Holocaust, the genocide off the Armenians, Stalin's purges, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Jonestown, Heaven's Gate, the Black Plague, the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918, the World Wars, cancer, Charles Manson, Nidal Malik Hasan, 9/11, the Inquisitions, the Salem Witch Hunt, the list goes on and on?
Hell, how do you explain the ichneumon wasp, without Satan? This wasp stings and paralyzes a caterpillar, then lays eggs in the helpless insect. While the caterpillar remains alive, the eggs hatch and begin to eat the caterpillar from the inside. The poor creature can survive for quite some time before finally dying from this. Is this something God thought up, or could it be something Satan devised?
Originally posted by chiron613
Either there is a Satan that does this bad stuff, or else God Himself is doing it. Assuming there's a God to begin with, of course.