Its good to see more people starting to become aware of the real world, or at least parts of it.

This is a good video, I watched it some time ago - and learned a few new things.

The problem is, when you really become aware - you can't talk to anyone Haha.

People will talk about things in the matrix as if they were real - they have heated debates that amount to nonsense and so on.

The one thing that people in the US can't seem to separate themselves from is the idea that their beloved country is just being used as a massive war machine to grind the rest of the world into submission. They are so attached to their country - they cannot step back and see what it really is.

If you begin to talk about the real world with 'normal' people, or even allude to the idea that there is a real world - then the conversation is over - and you are obviously a loony.

Get used to the idea - insanity is simply seeing a different reality - so once you learn too much, there is no going back to being a sane person again.

Your mind will revolt - a lie once proven, can never again be accepted as truth.

Originally posted by vimanarider
And using entries on D&B as proof that countries and government entities are corporations is absurd.

Did you read what you just wrote? No fear, I quoted it below.

Originally posted by vimanarider
D&B is simply an agency for reporting business credit reference not all entries on their site are corporations.

BUSINESS is synonymous with CORPORATION.

Seriously???...BUSINESS is also synonymous with BEESWAX, but I would not call the UK an insect secretion. You are trying to pigeon-hole here.

According to D&B themselves, country related information is provided so that INDIVIDUALS, CORPORATIONS, and other BUSINESSES can forsee potential risks and rewards of investing, conducting business, manufacturing, etc. in or with other COUNTRIES. None of this categorizes a National entity as a corporation in the sense you and Mr. Harris are implying. Here is a quote from their site...

"D&B business information, whether it is used for macro analyses on industries or countries or a micro analysis on a specific business can help you make better decisions during uncertain economic times."

So even the site that he uses as a reference, places a difference between the two.

All I have to say about this is..

So what?

So these people are trying to get us... big deal. They are evil men doing evil things, and you found out. They aren't the only evil people in the world.

You're evil too!

Every time you pay your taxes or use their currency our work for 'The Man', you are just as evil because you are actively allowing them to be in power. Does paying taxes and using money make the average person on the street evil? Nope, the average person on the street is ignorant of the information that you have and take their actions in blindness.

You, oh knower of the truth, you support the Evil Men with full knowledge of what you are doing. For shame!

Originally posted by obsolete

Originally posted by vimanarider
His quoting of the Magna Carta and lawful rebellion is priceless, the law was repealed in 1216.

You may want to watch that segment again, I think you missed something.

Originally posted by vimanarider
And using entries on D&B as proof that countries and government entities are corporations is absurd.

Did you read what you just wrote? No fear, I quoted it below.

Originally posted by vimanarider
D&B is simply an agency for reporting business credit reference not all entries on their site are corporations.

BUSINESS is synonymous with CORPORATION.

[edit on 11/15/2009 by obsolete]

[edit on 11/15/2009 by obsolete]

no it isn't synonymous...i owned a business, but was not incorporated...big, big difference. the biggest difference is who is held monetarily responsible, and here's one reason....if you, yourself own a business, and with good fortune, becomes successful to the point that you have to hire others to make critical decisions regarding the flow of business money, you would be wise to incorporate. this prevents someone blaming you directly for loses. since it was someone employed by you, that might have caused the loss, you do not want to be held personnally responsible. thus, the loss would be against the entire corporate entity. this is done by creating a corporation, with you becoming an employee.
individual people can be corrupted, or make mistakes, no matter how qualified they are. you do not want to lose all of your personal assets to a person like that, so you set up a corporation to take on all the losses, and exempt yourself from having to pay the losses.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by jimmyx]

That was incredible! It even has a perfect parallel to spirituality, i.e., one must sacrifice the self identity (the legal person) to achieve true freedom (enlightenment).

Truth is universal, isn't it?

Life is nothing more than an illusion; a system of beliefs that we take to be true, when in actuality it's all a farce. We are not this person, nor even a man or woman, it is all just infinite conscious awareness.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by Riposte]

This is awake up call?

Honestly, the best video I've seen so far. I'm incorporating my name.

It's business, it isn't a wake up call. If it is a wake up call to some, then you really really need to get your heads out of your a$$e$ and start paying attention to what's actually going on around you and not what conspiracy could you make up that could be going around you.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by Tomis_Nexis]

I am still watching the video, will comment on one thing the speaker brought up with regards to the social services, I agree they used the Baby P Case so they can raise more money for the co-operation. It is just horrendious, if true they used a child who was killed to give thier shareholder more profit. That in itself I find shocking.

Talk about a wake up call, I am going to have a look at the Scottish Common Law, and compare this with the statues implemented by previous uk governments and now the scottish government. But where to start, unless you have a legal background where do you start! It is complete mind boggling.

But I suppose it is a process of learning. The truth rather than having is sold to you by The Co-orporate powers thatbe.

Does anyone have any other follow up links, I would like to see if any of those in the audience asked questions etc?

I would be very grateful, if the op maybe can post more links or anyone else tyvm.





[edit on 15-11-2009 by Laurauk]

This movie is so true.

This movie is not actually a wake up call but rather a reminder.

Like: Before you take up any credit or a loan. You should think about what you have to offer in exchange.

What i saw with the financial crisis was not us loosing power. But the government loosing its power over us. If we loos everything so do they. If we dont have a job or anything. They have nothing to claim us for. And that makes them powerless.

Maybe it was the corporations who called the financial crisis for crisis! They were loosing power.

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

OMG @ the ending, it actually brought tears to my eyes, is still trying not to become too over emotional.

At least he is given us, who want to listen a platform to research this more ourselves. Rather than be droins and follow the PTB.

Star and flagged, O/P thank you very much for this!

What he's saying applies as much to the USA as it does in the UK. Under Common Law, the Criminal law of the land for the USA, it is a crime to mislead people in/into an agreement (a contract). The application of Statutes/Regulations/policies/acts/etc is done by fraud or misleading people into agreements. The courts commit fraud by not telling us they consider us "wards" of the company, city, state, court, etc... This is the basis of the massive crimes being committed by Cities, counties, states, feds. This is the basis of their rationals for abuse. Police are moving more and more towards treating people as simply commodities to be managed without any regard, respect, etc.. In other words they (police, judges) imagine they have "jurisdiction" over you. If you don't tell them you don't recognize their authority and require ie you won't contract with them, then they rationalize that you have accepted (by implication) them as an authority over you.

This is the perverted minds of the legal society and it's associates they commit fraud, extortion, kidnapping under a foolish rational because they are getting away with it. They make up words. But at the core they obey a rules framework and if you can stand up to their framework you can manage them.

The legal society is the heart of almost all conspiracy and corruption. Who does the government go to for advice? To the legal society. Who does the legal society owe an allegiance to? The Crown Court. Who is the Crown Court? The Templar Crown Court of the Vatican.

I have often pondered this sort of thing. I have heard these ideas referenced many times over the past couple of decades and found they resonated as true.

Here is my take and my reasoning as to why there is a logical basis behind this.

1) I am a physical human being composed of materials that have been around a lot longer than any body politic (although not in this current form)

2) I have the ability to behave upon my own volition. I can CHOOSE to act in whatever way suits me. The only cavaet is that there will always be consequences to my actions.

3) Any authority is only as valid as the entity granting such authority says it is. I can choose not to follow any laws or statutes, claiming that the authority has no claim over me. They cannot FORCE me to follow their laws. They can try to coerce me to follow them, but it will ALWAYS be my choice. So the only one who can grant an entity authority over me is me.

I think this fellow in the video says it very well. The only way to beat this game is to learn the rules. You cannot just leave the playing field. In order to do that, one would have to have their own private and self-sustaining island. But to learn what the rules are empowers one to play the game actively instead of just being a game piece.

Money, in the end, is not the primary currency. It cannot be because it does not have any intrinsic value. A piece of paper or metal currency set on a table will not have accomplished anything of its own volition within any period of time. Humans are the currency. They can produce change and thus have an intrinsic value based on their knowledge, experience, and capabilities.

So learn the rules of the game and play it well. Stop being a game piece. I think that is the real message being sent here.



[edit on 11-15-2009 by rogerstigers]

Please be aware that UK Column, TPUC, BBC5tv, The British Constitution Group, all have hidden links with the BNP, UKIP and other far right organisations.

Whilst their information is accurate, and their goals admirable, membership of their organisations have been saturated with peoples of questionable moral standards. Fundamentalist Christians have also emplaced themselves within these organisations, and continue to corrupt them. Muslims, and other religions as a result, are not welcome.

As usual with these things, research the people making the claims (and their associates) before you start acting on their advice. I have met the key players in these organisations, as well as partaken of the conferences and meetings. I wish them every success in bringing down the UK government, but their agenda is suspect to me.

The Para.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by Parallex]