10 Ways Darwin got it wrong - The Conspiracy of Evolution

Great thread here...very good read!

If you haven't seen Ben Stein's movie on Intelligent Design called "Expelled", you should most definitely check it out. I found it on Netflix a few weeks ago.

Here's a link.



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reply to post by susp3kt

Really? Wow, thanks man! Star!
I am just some religious freak spouting nonsense!
Thanks for the link and your post!
I'll head over right now check it out and be right back......

Oh, no, Ben Stein! Woooooow.
Thats great! Thanks! LMFAO!
I really liked the intro clip!...
my reply?
I do think God is interesting to talk about too!
Hence this thread!
Thank you again for the compliment!



[edit on 14-11-2009 by dodadoom]

Originally posted by susp3kt
Great thread here...very good read!

If you haven't seen Ben Stein's movie on Intelligent Design called "Expelled", you just most definitely check it out. I found it on Netflix a few weeks ago.

Here's a link.

Cool thanks. Haven't seen this one before. I sure will.

reply to post by dodadoom


Do you know anything of Darwin? Darwin was a very religious man. In fact, he waited 25 years before revealing his discoveries because he knew of the religious implications. He struggled with the decision. He felt it was akin to having to admit to murder.

I very much doubt that didn't believe the Earth was created by God in some form or another.

reply to post by nixie_nox

Yes, I do. I have read this also.
His father and grandfather were very religious in fact.
Nice post!
I sure like your posts I see around ATS!
I appologize for not friending you sooner!
Star!



[edit on 14-11-2009 by dodadoom]

Why must creationists constantly use religious websites to prove that Darwins theory of evolution is incorrect? Pastors, priests etc are not scientitsts.....they dont know squat....

And OP, how hypocritical are you calling out loner007 when your mind is already made up too......I mean, you probably wouldnt understand the science behind biology, nor would you listen to anyone that was trying to educate you on how the theory of evolution actually works.

reply to post by OzWeatherman

Um, hey Oz! Thanks for droppin' in!
Thanks also for assuming things about me too! Nice.
But why would scientists opinions be any more credible about something so complex in the first place? Or a meteorologist either for that matter?
Science is great for what it is.
But it cannot always answer the really big questions about life and things therein and therefrom.
Hypocritical and what?
Wow, um I'll go back and reread but I dont think I called out anybody.

Hang on a sec, jeez.
I thought I have been rather cordial about this and try to let everyone express their point of view.
I am no scientist, but I study science!
I am expressing my personal belief, I have no right to say how others feel. Please before bashing me, read all my posts on here or other threads.
Fair enough or no...
I doubt everyone feels the same. We have free choice.
And have lived different experiences.
Is this your opinion?
Or are you apparently really just here to bash too?

Don't you have a chemtrail thread to debunk anyway?


[edit on 14-11-2009 by dodadoom]

Hey, if this helps you sleep better at night...go ahead and keep attacking science, and continue to believe whatever information coincides with your established predispositions.

However, did it ever occur to you that GOD creates through EVOLUTION? Or is that too much of a jump to make from what the bible says is true?

We have proof of evolution. Viruses will evolve to their surroundings and become stronger with new and improved vaccines. People of different skin color evolve to their climate and region and location according to the equator. Dominant species (us) evolves from updates and upgrades in technologies and resources etc.

And...LETS NOT FORGET THE DINOSAURS THAT WE HAVE PROOF OF, THAT GOD MADE, AND ALLOWED TO ROAM THE EARTH BEFORE YOU AND I WERE EVER A THOUGHT.

The typical Christian response to that one is this...God, or Satan, put the bones there to test your faith.

No...the bones are there because they were used by the beings that NEEDED THEM, i.e. "Dinosaurs." This earth is estimated to be about 1.6 billion years old. Now, since I cannot prove the earth's actual age, I will just have to go on research made by specialists in their field with more knowledge and experience than I have such as: paleontologists and astronomers who are highly educated and have PHD's to back up their hard work.

YES, I believe in creationism. However, a work of art is an ever EVOLVING process, and its quite possible that GOD creates his/her/its art through the means of evolution. Science and religion are not that far apart in overall theory. But, for some reason, each faction chooses to cling to the idea that they need to be separate in order for each to have validity. Its all childish nonsense if you ask me.



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I would imagine they know a great deal on the subject of their respective flavors of religion.

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

However, did it ever occur to you that GOD creates through EVOLUTION? Or is that too much of a jump to make from what the bible says is true?

Awesome post!
Thank you for posting that!
Can't agree more.
Thanks again!
Now if we can just get others on board!

[edit on 14-11-2009 by dodadoom]

Originally posted by loner007
And i prefer Darwinism to the intelligent design given by bible bashers as at least they have science to back it up wheres bible basheres just bash their bibles about and fail to use that grey matter that is inside their heads.

I'm of the opinion that Darwin didn't exactly have it right or wrong bro. Maybe he is just like every other scientist before him. Could it be possible that not everything that he has presented is not 100% factual, and that some of it could be open to discussion?

Theories have come and gone, and some have been added to and improved.

You don't have to buy into the bible stories to believe in ID. Alien seeding? The possibilities are endless. I stand with an open mind, and always question.

Evolution is real, but it doesn't explain creation.

Peace!

[edit on 14-11-2009 by susp3kt]

"Theory" of Evolution =D

Hell, how much better could you have done if you were Darwin?

He came up with all this 150 years ago and most Americans today would probably not understand him.

Originally posted by dodadoom
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

Um, hey Oz! Thanks for droppin' in!
Thanks also for assuming things about me too! Nice.
But why would scientists opinions be any more credible about something so complex in the first place? Or a meteorologist either for that matter?
Science is great for what it is.

Well they kind of are the ones that study these fields in depth....why would you assume that an pastor who just happens to be a creationist with a strong opinion against evolution knows more?

Hypocritical and what?
Wow, um I'll go back and reread but I dont think I called out anybody.

You called out the first poster on the first page. Chadwickus I believe also noticed this

I thought I have been rather cordial about this and try to let everyone express their point of view.
I am no scientist, but I study science!
I am expressing my personal belief, I have not right to say
everyone feels the same. We have free choice.
Is this your opinion? Or are you apprently just here to bash too?

I know, you are totally entitled to your opinion, Im not trying to take that away from you. Im simply curious as to why you would assume the words of someone who is obviously biased, are fact?

Im not here to bash you, despite having different beliefs, I still respect yours....I have no problem with religion, as long as people arent going to try an convert others (most likely to be fundamentalists in that case anyway)

Don't you have a chemtrail thread to debunk anyway?

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Nah, none out at the moment

reply to post by susp3kt


expelled is a pile of crap and lies.

a lot like this list


yes darwin got a few things wrong. no one really doubts this. but then again...origin of species is celebrating its 150th anniversary this year. so its a bit outdated. scientists have updated the theory of evolution since then. NONE of your arguments are compelling in the least.

for example "humans beings evolving from apes"
humans ARE apes.

no one has observed speciation?
are you kidding me?
have they (or you) done any research?

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

I would imagine they know a great deal on the subject of their respective flavors of religion.

What's up Watchers??? I thought I would say hello since I haven't heard from you in awhile!!!

Anyway, here's yet another thread of someone posting according to their predispositions, or established schemas. Some things will never change.

[edit on 14-11-2009 by EvolvedMinistry]

I say believe what you want to, no point in trying to change other peoples views on it because it very seldom works.

From where i see the world, it's alot easier to believe in darwins theory because it seems logical, and has atleast some proof. Sure it has holes in it, but more than the bible?

Maybe it's logical to some that everything was made by the man upstairs in a few days, but it falls down when asked to prove it.

Maybe god did make everything in 7 days and evolution was part of his plan. He is supposed to be infinitely powerful, so he could have just built that into the system...

reply to post by susp3kt

Cool!
Thanks for helping out and for your posts!
I cannot add to it, so I won't!
I just hope Ozman looks at this....
Star!




[edit on 14-11-2009 by dodadoom]

reply to post by dodadoom

Thank you, I'm glad someone else picked up on that idea. I think its hard for some people to connect the dots that are right in front of them.

As to the ape

reply to post by die_another_day

Are you asking me or just anyone in general?
Um, I'm not 150 years old?
I agree, he's deep.
Thanks!
Feel free to post anytime!
Star!