NWO prepares US bases for attack on Venezuela, page 1
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Topic started on 13-11-2009 @ 11:47 AM by Amagnon
EDIT: Removing references to Obama - people seem to think he is relevent - he is just a puppet, but people get distracted by it.

It seems that the NWO is not content with the ongoing occupation of Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The Iraq occupation, universally recognized as being based on false pretense and lies, was responsible for displacing 4 million people, killing up to 1 million civilians, and amoral theft of Iraqs oil, oil profits that rightly belong to the Iraqi people, but instead fill the coffers of corporations of the NWO.

The invasion of Afghanistan, once again based on preposterous lies is responsible for the death of thousands of civilians, and the displacement of more than a million. The ongoing conflict is undermining the stability of nuclear armed Pakistan, and fueling anti US sentiment throughout the region and the Muslim world. However, the poppy fields are flourishing, and with the ongoing defense spending, both are funneling wealth into the pockets of the NWO.

Not content with current numbers the NWO contemplates increasing the US forces by as much as 40,000 troops to combat the remaining suspected 100 Al Quaida operatives in the area.

Another symptom of discontent in bringing peace to the world through the barrel of a gun, the US puppets have recently signed an agreement with Columbia for the expansion and use of military bases within the country.

This is all being done to promote peace, of course, which any sane person knows is what you have when everyone who disagrees with you is dead.

Included is information pertaining to the military bases in Columbia.

This is preparation for another war of aggression against Venezuela - who's unforgivable crime is the nationalization of their oil reserves, so that money can be spent on education and improvement of living standards for the poor.

If only they had let the NWO oil corporations continue to bleed the country to death, and hadn't told the NWO's IMF to go f-k itself .. hmm .. bend over and take it like a slave, its a sure recipe for peace when dealing with the NWO.


After several months of secrecy and controversy, on October 28th the US and Colombia signed an agreement to allow the US military extensive access to seven Colombian bases, notwithstanding serious concerns about true intentions and eventual consequences.


Of course anything signed in secret is obviously good for everyone - otherwise, why would you keep it secret? It would be paradoxical. This is just the NWO's version of a surprise birthday party for Chavez.

Not only that, but similar assurances by Colombian Defense Minister Gabriel Silva that the agreement "has no geopolitical or strategic connotation, other than being more effective in the fight against drug trafficking" are even more hard to believe after reading a recently-uncovered Pentagon budget document that expresses clear regional intentions for the Palanquero base. The document describes the U.S. presence in Palanquero as an “opportunity for conducting full spectrum operations throughout South America,” and confirms the fears of Colombia’s neighbors when it discusses the possibility of using the base to confront the "threat" of what it calls "anti-US governments." The most chilling phrase, however, is the discussion of the potential use of Palanquero to “expand expeditionary warfare capability.”


Presidential candidate and Senator Gustavo Petro urged the Colombian government to renounce the deal, calling it illegal without Congressional approval and pointing to the regional tensions it has fueled.


1peaceatatime.blogspot.com...


Both the US and Colombia have stressed their aim is to use the bases to combat drug trafficking and rebels.


Drug traffickers are mainly CIA agents - so seven military bases to combat them is reasonable of course.

"The agreement has no geopolitical or strategic connotation, other than being more effective in the fight against drug trafficking," he said.


Yes, yes - of course - troops are needed, and planes, tanks, and certainly nuclear weapons.

Tensions flared again between the two countries on Sunday, when the Venezuelan leader called Mr Silva "mentally retarded" on his weekly TV show.

"He is following instructions from the empire, because in Colombia, it's not the Colombians who make the decisions. It's the Yankee empire who decides," Mr Chavez said, referring to Colombia's links with the US.


Outrageous - he should apologize, it is not politically correct to point out others congenital mental deficiencies.

Columbia can hardly refuse the offer - and its citizens had damn well better be happy. Nothing like putting a gun to someones head to achieve a wonderful level of friendship and compliance.

news.bbc.co.uk...


The 10-year deal signed last Friday during a brief closed-door ceremony in Bogota envisions the deployment of some 800 U.S. military personnel and 600 civilian contractors at seven military bases in Colombia.


Sure, 800 men - it really only takes a couple getting killed to necessitate an 'expanded role' in the region - never heard that rhetoric before.

www.defencetalk.com...


Here is a decent documentary on Chavez - if you haven't seen it - I suggest you look. This is the guy they want you to hate, along with all the members of a country rich in oil, but impoverished by foreign oil corporations.

video.google.com...#

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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 02:08 PM by Amagnon
Originally posted by redoubt
Excuse me but... what tripe!

The only person in the southern hemisphere bent on a war right now is Chavez.

The US, despite what you may think about it and its people, are in NO mood for another war. Moreover, we simply can't afford to pay the bills we have right now, much less those that would be incurred satisfying this socialist demigog's dream of being invaded by the big, bad, USA.

Chavez would, however, love to spread his socialist ideology... by force if necessary, to all his neighbors. It would reinforce his power structure by acting as nation-gates to his little oily, socialist empire.

The ONLY way the US would become involved down there would be if Chavez were to unilaterally invade his neighbors.

But... go ahead and buy the product and spread the demagoguery. Chavez is NOT president here so... speech is still a free commodity.

[edit on 13-11-2009 by redoubt]


I heard your opinion on the MSM already - now go drink the coolaid and get some sleep.

The US, despite what you may think about it and its people, are in NO mood for another war.


You think the NWO who are running things care what the people think? We are talking about the same US right? The one where you can be imprisoned with no charges or trial? Where you can have your phone tapped, and any other surveillance with no warrant? Where police can enter your home and seize up to 80% of your property, because they feel like it? Where the banks are bailed out - and the citizens wear the associated debt? That US right?

How in Gods name do you think the people have a say?

Critical thinking and intelligence are dead - now people can just switch on their TV and get a pre-packaged opinion - no thinking required.

I admit none of this is Obama's fault, he is as much use as a blow up doll - he just does what he is told. I just find it ironic that he won the Nobel Peace Prize - and he is carrying on the killing.


reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 02:13 PM by redoubt
reply to post by Amagnon




I heard your opinion on the MSM already - now go drink the coolaid and get some sleep.


So much for an honest debate.

Think I'll follow the logic of this website and deny ignorance...

-IGNORE- (click)


reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 02:26 PM by Amagnon
Originally posted by redoubt
reply to
post by Amagnon




I heard your opinion on the MSM already - now go drink the coolaid and get some sleep.


So much for an honest debate.

Think I'll follow the logic of this website and deny ignorance...

-IGNORE- (click)


I'm afraid the ignorance is not removed by more ignorance. But you can put me on ignore if it makes your cherished beliefs feel less threatened.

The brainwashing of America runs so deep - MSM controls peoples minds completely.

Would you like to tell me what is the MAINSTREAM view of Chavez? How is he portrayed in the MSM?

Is he portrayed as a friend of America? Is he portrayed as a good guy? Or is he portrayed in exactly the way you have rendered him - an enemy, and a threat?

I already know the answer - the answer is your MSM makes out Chavez to be the enemy. Your MSM is a complete lie - it is ALL a lie - when will people finally realize everything they are told is wrong? When will they truly deny ignorance and think for themselves?

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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 02:40 PM by conspiracyrus
reply to post by nh_ee



ah good catch ... It is a lot easier to believe that the leaders of those countries don't want to make a deal with the devil than have them all be either insane radicals who wish to destroy the united states because they are jealous of our freedom.


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 12:15 PM by Gools
There was a story in the Independent this weekend on this issue:

US builds up its bases in oil-rich South America

From the Caribbean to Brazil, political opposition to US plans for 'full-spectrum operations' is escalating rapidly.

The United States is massively building up its potential for nuclear and non-nuclear strikes in Latin America and the Caribbean by acquiring unprecedented freedom of action in seven new military, naval and air bases in Colombia. The development – and the reaction of Latin American leaders to it – is further exacerbating America's already fractured relationship with much of the continent.

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And, this being US foreign policy, a tell-tale trail of oil is evident. Brazil had already expressed its unhappiness at the presence of US naval vessels in its massive new offshore oilfields off Rio de Janeiro, destined soon to make Brazil a giant oil producer eligible for membership in Opec.

The fact that the US gets half its oil from Latin America was one of the reasons the US Fourth Fleet was re-established in the region's waters in 2008. The fleet's vessels can include Polaris nuclear-armed submarines – a deployment seen by some experts as a violation of the 1967 Tlatelolco Treaty, which bans nuclear weapons from the continent.

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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 12:35 PM by Kram09
reply to post by Amagnon



Well it's no surprise to see the American Empire start to spread it's tentacles in Latin America.

I liked your post. I thought it was well written personally.

However i can't imagine how the USA could get involved in a war in Venezuela whilst over stretched in the Middle East. Perhpas if they just help incite the tensions between Colombia and Venezuela, causing them to go to war. Then just provide Colombia with weapons, intelligence, maybe send in Special Forces.



reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:18 PM by turbokid
Originally posted by Kram09
reply to
post by Amagnon



Well it's no surprise to see the American Empire start to spread it's tentacles in Latin America.

I liked your post. I thought it was well written personally.

However i can't imagine how the USA could get involved in a war in Venezuela whilst over stretched in the Middle East. Perhpas if they just help incite the tensions between Colombia and Venezuela, causing them to go to war. Then just provide Colombia with weapons, intelligence, maybe send in Special Forces.


thats EXACTLY how it will play out, war by proxy, kinda like we did in afghanistan when russia invaded, the iran iraq war, all the arab israeli wars, etc.


reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 01:31 PM by Gools
More analysis on this story from Foreign Policy In Focus:

Revamping Plan Colombia

The locations of the bases under negotiation raise further questions. None of the air bases are on the Pacific coast, from where aircraft on the Manta base patrolled for drug traffic — supposedly with great success, reflecting how traffic has increased in the Pacific. Two of the bases are clustered near each other on the Caribbean coast, not far from existing U.S. military sites in Aruba and Curaçao – and closer to Venezuela than to the Pacific Ocean. Why are U.S. negotiators apparently forgoing Pacific air sites, if the drug war remains part of the U.S. military mission? What missions "beyond Colombia's borders" are U.S. planners contemplating?


I find it hard to believe this thread is not receiving more attention from our members.
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reply posted on 26-11-2009 @ 10:44 AM by Amagnon
reply to post by NuclearPaul



Very important video that one, I understand Russo has passed away now - but a valuable legacy has been left.
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