Please convince me that there was no creator of anything.

How did dark matter start?

How did stars and planets start?

How did anything start?

thats a really poor premise for a thread.

heres a question for you

why should we care about trying to convince you?

those questions are kinda really bad too.

from what i can tell dark matter is still hypothetical for the most part as none has been found. (that i know of)

no one knows how everything started. that does not lead straight to a creator.

I am pretty sure that science (specifically quantum physics) is beginning to understand that everything was created by some unknown divine force. The Creator perhaps?

And I don't mean God, that would be silly. There are so many of them today fighting over control of humanity its ridiculous.

Why would you want someone to convince you that there is no creator? What ever happened to deciding for yourself your own beliefs?

ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing anybody can do to refute a creator, even though there's no point to it whatsoever, is use circular logic.

Creator>>creation>>creator>>creation>>creator

That is, if there's a creator, it must have come from somewhere, implying it is a creation, implying there's yet another creator/creation

Like a circle.

If you've ever wondered why the most universally common geometric shape is a globe or "circle" then you've probably questioned the circular nature of humanity as well.

Infinity is a difficult concept, yet a persistent one - that's why it's "infinity".

all the answers of anybody on this is wrong (including this one)

just live your life and dont think too much about it.

u'll learn to know in the end

I think the most popular scientific theory is that everything started after the big bang. Right before that was the big crunch. It's probably a continues cycle that will go on and on.
Adding a human personification to creation is not logic but religion. Trying to make you believe something is pointless.

There is really only two possible answers (based on human reasoning):

1. The Universe is Eternal

or

2. The Universe is not eternal, however something eternal preceded the Universe.

Something comes from something.

Something cannot come from nothing.

We know something exists, therefore something always existed. Since at no point could there have been nothing (something cannot come from nothing).

In other words, when you dig deep into the argument, it always includes some component being eternal.

The answer is not hiding in my opinion, it's just too hard for us to hold it nice and tight with our minds so we pass on the eternal and keep asking questions.

Asking questions are good but so is experiencing an answer.