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So Jesus is not helping us
Originally posted by radio_for_peace
reply to post by woodwardjnr
faith in science? You have to be kidding me...the same religion that's turning swine flu into an epidemic...lol!
[edit on 12-11-2009 by radio_for_peace]
So Jesus not helping us stop the nwo? I keep hearing born again christians saying Jesus is the only solution to the nwo. I am a born again christian but I'm starting to have doubts about my religion because of the Israel loving sentiment. If Jesus is not the solution then what is when they already took over.
What does the "born again" mean
OK , well lets all put our faith in God, he's done a pretty good job so far at curing starvation and illness around the world and creating peaceful loving planet.
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
reply to post by octotom
but what about the Israeli loving sentiment it seems wrong because Israel committed genocide against the palestinians
I hear that a lot, and my problem with it is that.. you'all had your chance. In a time commonly referred to as "The Dark Ages",
when innocents were horribly tortured (with supporting quotations from the bible), and actively pursued by church authority. Any knowledge outside their accepted purview (like architecture, sanitation, etc) was burned as well, and people suffered like crazy. Countless wars were waged (some literally staffed by children), again with the full backing of the church, all in the name of the kingdom of God.
And what do we call the time when the culture was finally allowed to throw off the Christian chains, take in new (and old) information, to think for themselves and not focus every moment on God? The Renaissance & the Age of Enlightenment. Nowhere on Earth has a society based on fundamentalist religious teachings been a fair, happy, warless, or innovative one. (Well, maybe the Buddhists, but they have no problems with other people's gods, while it is the monotheists that seem to do the vast majority of damage). Correct me if I'm wrong, I will listen.
So, why would your kingdom to come be any different than the kingdom you already had?
How is that belief any different from the "evil Muslims" who want to make the world over in their image of what is righteous & god given to them?
No death, no starving, no fighting... seems very much like a Christian fairy tale to me.
And if that really is the end desire, why do so many Christians support the death penalty,
are war hawks,
and are vehemently opposed to public heathcare, social security, welfare, and all the other safety nets that do exactly that (help people live longer by providing medicine, food and shelter) that the Democrats have created to realize these ideals NOW?
Waiting for Jesus to do it makes as much sense to me as waiting for Odin or King Arthur (both of whom also promised to return and fix everything for us).