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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by mooseinhisglory
I think you missed the point. I am pissed off at the snot nosed punks who think that because they disagree with the "war" that they can disrespect and even talk down to a soldier. Nobody I know thinks themselves heroes. All I have talked to and known were and are just doing their job. Jumping on a grenade to save a platoon is heroic. I fixed planes. Not heroic at all. But just because I served my country and went all over the world to fix these planes, doesn't mean I am responsible for the war in Afghanistan or any other country. That falls on the leaders or the nations. I want these kids to be smart enough ton know the difference.
Originally posted by FortAnthem
Most people complaining about "the military" are really complaining about the our foreign policy, and they have a point. This contry needs to learn to conduct it's foreign policy without resorting the constant threat of military invasion or assult.
Originally posted by stevegmu
reply to post by Uniceft17
Can you list several examples as to how US involvement in Iraq violates the Constitution? How about pointing out the UN resolutions stating the Iraq war was and is illegal?
If there was no military in the United States, there would be no wars, there would be no hunger, there would be no problems...... for you. You would be dead. Some small country, probably like Columbia or Venezuela would stroll in here and kill you and take your stuff. All of it. They might have a go at your daughter or wife before killing them, but no matter. Dead is dead. Even in California. The land of liberal love and friendship. Hugo Chavez himself might move into a nice house in wine country.
Originally posted by star in a jar
Invading a country who had not attacked America: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq- is not an act of heroism, it is a criminal act that never did us any favors and only breeds more terror. Do any of you have any idea of how much these wars cost us?
World War 1 was a battle between kings and World War 2 was caused by World War 1. World War 2 is probably the only war where there had been reasonable cause- the rest was just an exercise in terror and there is no heroism in terror. Seriously. Ask yourself this question: If China attacked America and we resisted, does it make us terrorists in their eyes?
I don't believe that anybody who fought in any wars are heroes- they are just tools, instruments of destruction- lest we forget who really caused all these wars- powerful men and women such as the Rothschilds and Rocketfellers who wanted it all while paying no mind to the suffering of those on the receiving end, on both sides.
War is not glorious, nor is it good or holy.
Is a hero a mother or father who sacrifices for child, or a soldier who shreds the 'enemy' du jour to pieces?
[edit on 12-11-2009 by star in a jar]