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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 10:50 PM by highlyoriginal
Originally posted by The 5th
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post by nine0099thousand



Sounds like your using your 'astral eyes'


I just had my spiritual awakening so maybe I don't know this is possible, the whole astral eyes concept you have explained in your post. But I don't know if I believe you can astral project just your eyes... I mean when you astral project you usually take your full self along, sometimes I have trouble leaving my physical self when I astral project, however I get out completely one way or another, and I've never experienced anything different... doesn't mean it's not real (I still, as do we all, have much to learn) since I haven't learned about it or experienced it yet myself (I may never, unless I put some time and focus on trying to do so, so maybe I'll give it a shot, but I have some more serious things to focus on at this time).



reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 11:54 PM by RussianScientists
I'd like to know which direction each of you were facing if you were sitting, or if you were lying down which direction was your head aimed at and which direction your feet were aimed at? Also the state and/or country you live in, also your blood type if you know it and the color of your eyes, and if you wear glasses or not and are you near sighted or far sighted by any chance?

Your stories are very intriguing, especially the fact that most of you have suddenly had this happen to you, instead of it happening most of your lives. There must be something that triggers this bizzare seeing ability that all of you have accidentally stumbled upon and we should try to pin point what it is that is causing this sudden bizzare ability to see your surroundings when your eyes are closed. Maybe all of you might be able to experience it more often and be able to discover something important.

Did your experiences take place in the evenings only? Next time it happens please write down the exact date and time it occurs and put it in this post. There must be a connection here amoungst all of you, for all of you to have experienced such a strange occurance. What kind of fabric and fabric colors were you wearing? What is the color of the room you were in when it occured? What was the weather like at that specific time? The Phase of the Moon can be ascertained by the dates you supply in the future.

I'm interested in finding out what the common link is between all of you that lets you obtain such fantastic visual oportunities. I hope all of you are interested in finding it out also, because if you can figure out why you can do it at specific times, you might be able to use it for things we don't know about yet. You might be able to teach it to others in the future. Stars for all of you.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 07:08 AM by Alethea
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You sure ask a lot of questions!
Since reading this thread, it has rather astonished me that others have recently had this experience also.

I have also tried to recreate the experience. It CANNOT be done at will. I have tried all kinds of ways since this thread.

One person said it happened to them with muscle relaxers. I tried a cyclobenzeprene muscle relaxer. Nothing. No experience of seeing with eyes closed. I have tried relaxing, concentrating on it, all sorts of things to no avail.

On the two (or three?) instances when it happened to me several months ago....I did not "see" beyond my immediate area. I did not see into the next room; frankly, I do not think I attempted to do so.

Also, the guy that says everything was in black and white...I don't recall that I saw color either. It was basically a light and dark scenerio...and shadows of grey. Everything was outlined and yet distinct.

The most intriguing aspect is that I was fully conscious when it happened and yet, in my full consciousness now, I cannot "make" it happen.

My room is Martha Stewart eggshell blue; the head of my bed faces west, my feet point toward the east.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 02:07 PM by VonDoomen
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I would think its your imagination, not some psychic power.

Check out my post here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

it may give you some insight into this topic.


Although on the other hand. when I was young I took a bad fall and got knock unconscious for about half an hour. I had an out of body experience, and got to witness my own fall from a different vantage point, and then watch my baby sitter carry me into the house. So I do believe the possibility is out there.

[edit on 11/23/2009 by VonDoomen]


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 06:23 PM by Indigo_Child
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In Tantra this is called Chidakasha(mental space) It corresponds to your eye brow centre/third eye. It is here where you can see your visualizations, visions, memories and thoughts. It is also here where clairvoyance imagery takes place. It's almost like your movie projector to show you images from consciousness. There are exercises prescribed in Tantra by which you can develop this centre. The more you develop it the more you will be able to see behind close eyes, perfect your visualization skills and memory, open yourself to visions and develop clairvoyance.

It has happened to me a few times as well. In fact it has happened very recently. I know it is very cool indeed.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 08:56 AM by OSaucyOne
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I read up on tapping into my "Third Eye" and I attempted to see with my eyes closed again, and it worked. I'm definitely working to improve this, because it is one of the coolest discoveries of my life. Thanks Indigo_Child for letting me know where to look and what was going on.


reply posted on 19-2-2010 @ 09:42 AM by Most Infamous
First off I apologize, I know I should take the time to read all the posts and get a good idea of everyone's input before I put my two cents in.

OK, so having said that, here's what I think about what you're describing.

It helps if you have a basic understanding of how the eyes and sight itself function. It goes something like this, light hits your eyes and the retina converts the light into an electrical impulse that is transmitted down the optical nerve to a part of your brain known as the visual cortex. The visual cortex receives these electrical impulses or messages from the eyes and inturprets them, and tells us what we are seeing. This is just a basic, very basic breakdown of sight, there's a lot of complicated stuff that goes on between the eyes and the visual cortex but you get the basic idea, the basic idea being that the visual cortex is critical to sight. This is bound to be difficult for most people to understand because all this stuff happens 'out of sight'. For most people they think that the most critical thing in eyesight is the eye itself. Until one experiences a sever psychedelic hallucination, this kind of thinking is logical. I mean, cut the eyes out of the equation and logically speaking you would think that no eye, no electric impulse, no visual image in the visual cortex. But if you've ever experienced a psychedelic hallucination you'll know that some times the visual cortex doesn't always see whats in front of the eyes. Sometimes the visual cortex goes berserk and we see things that aren't actually there. Or sometimes the visual cortex gets its input from a source other than the optical nerve. Input from the ear is transmitted into the visual cortex, The visual cortex will take this information and inturpret it visually, which results in one seeing the color of a sound. Experiences like this show you that you don't neccessarily need the eyes to see. Take for example dreaming. Yes, in REM sleep your eyes are moving but the eyes are closed and there is no sight perse in the strict sense of the eyes taking in light, and images appearing in your visual cortex. Now I'm sort of getting in over my head here as I don't really know the scientific explaination for dreaming so I'll leave it here.

Some other people mentioned seeing with the astral eyes. Yes, good point and most likely the explination to all this. But once again, this is just another instance of the visual cortex receiving input from a source other than the eye. Which results in one seeing without the eyes or seeing with the eyes closed.


reply posted on 19-2-2010 @ 01:16 PM by drew hempel
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plus.maths.org...


Practical applications of this work include computer vision — computer scientists are already building the inter-connectivity structures that Bressloff and his colleagues played around with into their models, with the aim of teaching computers to detect contours and textures. On a more speculative note, Bressloff's research may also one day help to restore vision to visually impaired people. "The question here is if you can somehow stimulate part of the visual cortex, [bypassing the eye], and use that to guide a blind person," says Bressloff. "If one can understand how the cortex is wired up and responds to stimulation, perhaps one would then have a better way of stimulating it in the right way."




reply posted on 19-2-2010 @ 07:52 PM by Most Infamous
Originally posted by drew hempel
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post by Most Infamous



plus.maths.org...


On a more speculative note, Bressloff's research may also one day help to restore vision to visually impaired people. "The question here is if you can somehow stimulate part of the visual cortex, [bypassing the eye], and use that to guide a blind person," says Bressloff. "If one can understand how the cortex is wired up and responds to stimulation, perhaps one would then have a better way of stimulating it in the right way."


Cool. Interesting. We've already caught up!

This is straight out of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Remember Gerodie, the blind....uh, crew member, his got these special visors that hook up to his brain via electrical jacks/pick ups built into his skull. He has no eyes so he can't see the old fashioned way so he puts on the visor hooks it up to his head and then he can see, sort of. I remember one episode where he got into the details of the visor's design. He doesn't see like what regular people see, rather he sees general shapes and shades of light,(I think). Anyways, the Visor analyzes the light that would normally be seen by the eye/retina, and then much like the optical nerve set up, relays that info via the electrical jacks/pick ups to the visual cortex or to his brain where the info is processed, thereby allowing him to see without using his eyes. OK, I know its Sci-fi TV stuff thats like way in the future with tons of holes in it but, its nice to think that this guy Bressloff is thinking along those same lines. Who knows maybe x-ray goggles aren't so far fetched or so far off in the future!


reply posted on 19-2-2010 @ 10:22 PM by drew hempel
reply to post by Most Infamous



Oh it's gone much farther -- check out the Brainport

singularityhub.com...

You can see with your tongue now.


reply posted on 26-2-2010 @ 11:05 AM by Most Infamous
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Oh, man, that's just too far out!!! Futurama we are here!!!

So far this brainport thing is concerned with letting blind people see whats out there, see whats real(?). Theoretically it could be used to make one see whats not there(?), to make one hallucinate(?). Welcome to Virtual Reality.
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