R.I. Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Funeral Rights, page 1

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(AP) Gov. Don Carcieri vetoed legislation Tuesday that would give same-sex couples in Rhode Island the same right to plan the funerals of their late partners as married couples.

The socially conservative Republican said the proposed protection represents a "disturbing trend" of the incremental erosion of heterosexual marriage. Rhode Island does not recognize same-sex marriage.

"If the General Assembly believes it would like to address the issue of domestic partnership, it should place the issue on the ballot and let the people of the State of Rhode Island decide," Carcieri said in a letter to lawmakers.

Democrats hold a veto-proof majority in the Legislature and frequently override Carcieri's objections.

Sen. Rhoda Perry and Rep. David Segal, the bill sponsors, said they would seek to override the veto. They proposed the legislation after one of their constituents was unable to retrieve the body of his late partner from the state medical examiner for weeks because they weren't married or next-of-kin.

I for one don't see how the right of a gay person to claim the body and bury the body of their partner is an erosion of heterosexual marriage.

reply to post by stevegmu

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I agree with you. They already know how to handle this. But we all know they just go around creating things to bitch and whine about. I think the strategy is to do like children stand and scream until you either give in or beat them.

Of course, if you beat them you get extra time, because it is more of a crime to assault them than it is to assault straight white people. Everyne knows you would be beating them out of hate and not just because they tried to annoy the living heck out of you.

It is funny how they scream equal rights and then beg for unequal protection under the law.

Not that I am saying we should really beat children, gays, or anyone else for that matter.

[edit on 11-11-2009 by HotSauce]

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An example of the way that adherents of political views dehumanise their opponents. Ok, my friend, so you don't like gay people - fair enough, that's your prerogative. And yet you don't have enough humanity to empathise with someone, anyone, who has lost their life partner and is prevented from arranging their funeral.

What about unmarried opposite-sex couples? Does it undermine marriage if you let them make funeral arrangments for one another?

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Yes, I stated before that if it was going against the parents' wishes for the partner to have the body that those wishes be honored. But what if the parents just want NOTHING to do to with the body? That is what I am asking. The parents put not stipulations on anything is what I'm driving at. They could care less what happens to the body. So what then?

And just because you deem the body just to be a vessel (which I believe is very true) does not mean that others are going to believe the same way you do. You may see a dead body, others see the ones they once knew.

I'm just saying there are a lot of "what ifs."

Yes, I just don't understand how you can just drop someone once they don't adhere to your way of thinking. BUT THAT IS JUST ME! I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone. I just know I can teach my son everything I want him to know and bring him up a certain way but he's going to be the one who ends up making his own choices (though I don't think homosexuality is a choice, maybe acting on homosexuality but not homosexuality itself. But I believe you can't help how you feel). But like I said: THIS IS MY OPINION. Is there a disclaimer smiley? I just know I'll love my son (and hopefully one day a daughter *crosses fingers*) no matter what but not everyone has that line of thinking.

Either way, things like this are never going to be settled because everyone thinks they are right. One my favorite quotes goes something like "why not let them get married? that way they can be just as miserable as us." Or something like that haha.

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"Can we please stop telling people who they should be?

I would bet everyone who commented on this thread has done
sonething in their life that would not be accepted by another person or group.
Go on - think about it. Any secrets out there?

Let's stop this nonsense and quit trying to be the "deciders" for everyone."

I agree, we all have dont some nasty things in our lives and most of us wouldn't want those things to become public knowledge if we could avoid it.

Not Gays.

They flaunt their unaccepted behavior before the world and demand we all toe the party line and embrace and applaud them. They demand that anyone who doesn't just fawn over their every public act of provocation should be thrown in jail for "hate crimes".

I have no problems with gays having equal rights with everyone else. What I have a problem with is their incessant demands for rights above and beyond those of everyone else, especially their demand that nobody criticize their lifestyle.

It's called freedom of speach, deal with it.

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