10 states face financial peril... all but one Liberal, page 1
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reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 02:58 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by kingoftheworld



I believe in defending the constitution as well. The thing that bothers me is that the "Progressives" idea of a perfect world looks a whole lot like Marxism to me.

How come Liberals always come up with names that are the opposite of what they are trying to accomplish. They always try to make things sound real nice. They have quite a talent at it. For example:

Pro Choice instead of pro government protected baby murder
Progressive instead of Marxist or even nonProgressive or economy detroying. How many people would vote for them if there name reflected their results. The should go by the real name "Job Killer" party.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 03:03 PM by ThaLoccster
Originally posted by HotSauce
10 states face financial peril. All but Arizona voted Democratic in the last election. Is this proof that Liberal ideology is a financial failure?

Source - Money

Oh and the other one is McCain's home state so probably it is just Liberal light like McCain.




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No.

If these states had been ran by "liberals" for the past 10 years, I'd still say no.

None of these problems that forced these states financial predicaments just happened in the past year. Most of them are an example of bad choices and judgements over a long time span.

How many other states are "ran by liberals" and not in "financial peril".

Hell with the debt being what it is, the economy and job market being what they are, is any state not in financial peril?


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 03:07 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by HotSauce



"Compassionate conservativism"
"No child left behind"
"Operation Iraqi Freedom"
"Trickle-down economics"
"Southern Strategy"
"State's rights / law and order"

yeeeeah.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 03:39 PM by srslyguyz
Originally posted by HotSauce
10 states face financial peril. All but Arizona voted Democratic in the last election. Is this proof that Liberal ideology is a financial failure?

Source - Money

Oh and the other one is McCain's home state so probably it is just Liberal light like McCain.




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mccain is more liberal then he is conservative. the amount of useless projects arizona takes on amazes me, im glad i got out of that state. also, i find it funny and not suprising thenliberal states are having more problems, that what you get when you spend money you dont have


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 06:31 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by bettermakings



Actually California is even more of a financial mess if you can believe it. I mean I guess it is not hard to imagine, since they are one of the most Liberal states in the country, if not the most.


reply posted on 12-11-2009 @ 10:23 PM by genius/idoit
reply to post by ThaLoccster



Hell with the debt being what it is, the economy and job market being what they are, is any state not in financial peril?


The stars at night are big and bright.....deep in the heart of Texas!
ediy; I forgot to answer the op ...YES
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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:06 PM by shrike071
Originally posted by HotSauce
10 states face financial peril. All but Arizona voted Democratic in the last election. Is this proof that Liberal ideology is a financial failure?

Source - Money

Oh and the other one is McCain's home state so probably it is just Liberal light like McCain.

[edit on 11-11-2009 by HotSauce]


Before you get your lib'rul hatin' panties in a wad, check out the maps because they point out the flaw in your logic:

2008 Presidential Map Not an overwhelming victory, but more blue than red.

now on to 2004:
2004 Presidential Map
Oops - lot's of red there....

How about 2000?
Not looking good for your argument...

So if your basing your logic on less than a year of a Democratic president's policies and ignoring the previous 8 years of Republican leadership - I guess your logic holds!




reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 02:44 AM by Daedalus24
reply to post by kingoftheworld



so as a constitutionalist you see nothing wrong with the vision of the "founding fathers" (excluding Jefferson) right? Or do i assume wrong. Because if so, you're in for a shock. So I assume that you also believe in limiting the power of the "people" by marginalizing select groups of people from voting *blacks, women, minorities, non-land owning*...am i also to believe that you advocate for a system of government that allows what should be a powerless minority to become a powerful minority that trumps the powerless majority. You also believe that ultimately, the people can be robbed of a proper election by the electoral college? I do not believe in the constitution as it was originally written; it's flawed. Don't believe me? Then why did it take 27 amendments to make it "perfect"?

and to the op, the reason why we're so screwed in cal is mainly because we were one of the hardest hit by the housing bubble bursting. How is it possible for a house in southern cal *where i live btw* priced at upwards 1 million when a house of greater size, better location, in another state costs a quarter of the price? Take that and the reluctance of the state legislature's Republican members to raise the taxes of the wealthier citizens of our state because they're their biggest supporters. Remember, we based our state constitution on the us constitution, so even with the Democratic majority, a 3/4's majority is required for any tax increases. So in reality, i wouldn't blame our "socialist" tendencies, more the moronic thought process of certain state legislators.

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