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Originally posted by xynephadyn
reply to post by dominicus
A soul doesnt get sent to hell for eternity because of the way Christianity teaches it. Even if your not christian and you kill a bunch of people- chances are your still not going to hell.
Hell is for the sickest of the sickest souls- Hitler for example. About 1% of all who die on earth get marked for hell. It is nothing to be afraid of, you will not end up there.
I hate the Christian Fear Propaganda about going to hell if you dont believe in this or do this or that. Its all bullcrap. Truth is- God had to create a place for the blackest of souls to go- so that they are not mixed in with the general population on the otherside.
I've spoken to theologians and priests and nuns about this, all catholic, and it seems the going answer is this: a just person will be recognized as such by god. ghandi would go to heaven..so would any good jew, or muslim, or buddist or what have you. and besides...gods got this whole just ask for forgiveness clause...so whatever right?
Originally posted by dominicus
I mean it doesnt make sense at all. Nobody is perfect or like Christ. It seems like an impossibility to live Christ-Like unless your in a cave with no internet, TV, women, etc. In this case pretty much the majority of us are going to Hell for all of eternity according to the Bible.
[edit on 10-11-2009 by dominicus]
Romans 1:18-32 (New International Version)
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Romans 2:14-16 (New International Version)
14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
Matthew 12:30-32 (New International Version)
30"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Originally posted by dominicus
You will exist on this earth, and you only have a small minute chance of ever being saved and going to Heaven when the majority doesnt make it there. The odds are against you.
I would have never signed up for this, since it would be better to never have existed, than to exist with odds against you and because you choose the wrong path or keep falling to sins with temptation all around you and a body that constantly produces its own set of temptations ....because of this going to hell for all of eternity.